REDDERS78
Jack Armstrong
Brennan Johnsons value at this point would be far higher than MGW I'd suggest.
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Calvin Plummer
Viv Anderson
By the by BJ didn't want to discuss a new contract and Brentford eventually met our asking price.
He's still here and has signed...
He's still here and has signed...
Calvin Plummer
Viv Anderson
Why? They've both essentially had one good season.
Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
Johnson now appears to be a key player for Wales. He'll be off to the World Cup. His profile is now higher.
If Brennan Johnson replicates his form from last season, but this time in the top-flight, and has a decent World Cup campaign with Wales, then his value will absolutely go up.
Any Time Now
Grenville Morris
A players value is whatever someones willing to pay, MGW isn't worth £30m at this point in his career which is why almost nobody has maintained interest except us
Wolves clearly don't want him to leave but as with all players there comes a price where you logically can't say no, I just hope if it's anything close to £40m we don't meet it. And i'm a huge MGW fan
Wolves clearly don't want him to leave but as with all players there comes a price where you logically can't say no, I just hope if it's anything close to £40m we don't meet it. And i'm a huge MGW fan
REDDERS78
Jack Armstrong
I think it would be fair to assume Johnsons impact last season was greater than MGWs?
I fully fledged international who will be playing at the world cup. Higher profile maybe?
Jimmy
First Team Squad
BJ scores goals.
RedSpoons
First Team Squad
Canadian_red
Grenville Morris
I think they were very similar in terms of goals and assists totals.
I don't think we up our offer but tweak the structure of it. 30m is a lot and wolves know it. If only he had a buyout clause.
I don't think we up our offer but tweak the structure of it. 30m is a lot and wolves know it. If only he had a buyout clause.
weejockmcplop
Geoff Thomas
Wolves obviously want enough money that they can go and buy someone better than MGW as a replacement.
We have to really want him.
We have to really want him.
REDDERS78
Jack Armstrong
valspoodle
Steve Chettle
Unless we pay stupid money I can't see us getting him at the moment.
All indications are that if he gets game time he's happy to stay where he is. And Wolves apparently don't want to sell, though you can never tell in these sort of negotiations.
I reckon EM is good at this stuff, so there will be a point when he knows they won't sell or that the price is too high.
Wolves are on a knife edge, too, if the price is higher than their valuation and they are playing silly buggers to get it up even higher, they might be left with an 'asset' they don't really want; by that I mean they might have another player in their sights who was going to be purchased with the MGW money.
All indications are that if he gets game time he's happy to stay where he is. And Wolves apparently don't want to sell, though you can never tell in these sort of negotiations.
I reckon EM is good at this stuff, so there will be a point when he knows they won't sell or that the price is too high.
Wolves are on a knife edge, too, if the price is higher than their valuation and they are playing silly buggers to get it up even higher, they might be left with an 'asset' they don't really want; by that I mean they might have another player in their sights who was going to be purchased with the MGW money.
Calvin Plummer
Viv Anderson
I don't think it would be fair to say that, and if he performs at the WC absolutely but that's in the future.
Calvin Plummer
Viv Anderson
Per game MGW slightly edged BJ but there was nothing in it.
Calvin Plummer
Viv Anderson
As does MGW, often from midfield which is arguably more valuable.
Calvin Plummer
Viv Anderson
His profile is not higher. The world Cup has not happened.
Haych
John Robertson
BJ is worth about 40m as well then if Wolves are rejecting 25m + 10 in bonuses.
That’s a crazy sum of money for us right now. Id leave it and maybe come back in Jan if he still hasn’t signed a new deal.
That’s a crazy sum of money for us right now. Id leave it and maybe come back in Jan if he still hasn’t signed a new deal.
jtyorkshirered
First Team Squad
Agree with this, especially the point you make about the timing.
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Master Yates
John Robertson
I think it’s been clear for a while now that if we get him, we will have to overpay.
But I imagine Cooper has told the club that he has the potential to be an England regular in the not-too-distant future and we are pricing him accordingly.
Talkshite will go wild when they find out we’ve paid 487 billion quid for him
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But I imagine Cooper has told the club that he has the potential to be an England regular in the not-too-distant future and we are pricing him accordingly.
Talkshite will go wild when they find out we’ve paid 487 billion quid for him
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Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
Disagree. Johnson is regularly talked about as one of the players to watch in the Premier league this season. When the papers have their "ones to watch" he's the man at Forest, MGW isn't the Wolves man. Johnson's profile is definitely higher, the media expects him to start and will focus on him, MGW doesn't get the same treatment.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Think 5 of Gibbs White's goals came as striker last season - had a great output there and assisted in that role too. He's a superb player - like BJ, well above the level he was playing at last year.
And as with BJ, his potential makes him expensive - how much someone would need to pay to prise Brennan away would have to be similarly ambitious. Of course, it doesn't always pan out, but I'd back MGW and BJ to reach similar elite levels - elite as in playing prominent roles for their countries and playing for/courted by club's who regularly win trophies.
And as with BJ, his potential makes him expensive - how much someone would need to pay to prise Brennan away would have to be similarly ambitious. Of course, it doesn't always pan out, but I'd back MGW and BJ to reach similar elite levels - elite as in playing prominent roles for their countries and playing for/courted by club's who regularly win trophies.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
MGW was the only player to make our defenders look like idiots last season, he pulled them all over the place and was playing out of position.
He was the only guy I watched in the Championship last year that you genuinely feared every time he got the ball.
I don't think there is much dispute around his quality.
He was the only guy I watched in the Championship last year that you genuinely feared every time he got the ball.
I don't think there is much dispute around his quality.
RedSpoons
First Team Squad
This - it was like the Taarabt all over again. It looked easier for him than for anyone else in the league.
Fitzcarraldo
Ian Storey-Moore
I think the kid is a smart player. Is he worth the money? Could be argued both ways. There is certainly better value to be had on the whole market but you have to price-in 'homegrown' tax (15-20%) and assumed value to us - wolves know Cooper wants him and will extract maximum value out of him based on recent history.