Jonjo Shelvey

[Gyros Peter]

Unless there was a Legal reason for termination under breach of contract for example.
Such a process would probably take time and be under a period of non-disclosure, so it wouldn't be announced immediately...

Ah, that's a good one.

Perhaps it's YouTube related? Maybe he didn't have broadcasting rights for his 'highlight reel'.

 

[Bsabser]

 

[Monkman]

It's no doubt an expensive mistake, but at least he's off the books?

 

[It's Baggio]

"Just an oversight"

Bodes well.

 

[Collymore!]

"He joined Forest for free on deadline day in January, 11 days after his Newcastle team-mate Wood had made the journey south, signing a contract until 2025 on a salary of upwards of £60,000 per week."

"The proposed transfer fee is understood to be small, but Shelvey is expected to earn around £70,000 a week at the City Ground."

So the transfer fee could also be £0, which means the only effect on FFP of terminating his contract was to save £60-70k per week in this year's figures.

Even if the transfer fee was £6m, that's still amortised over 2 FFP periods as we "terminated" him in Sept (so one month into 23/24 FFP calculations). It could be a 100% good move from Forest, or worse case the amortisation has gone from £2m, £2m, £2m to £3m, £3m.

edit: it actually doesn't affect amortisation for 22/23 FFP at all, so is a completely irrelevant discussion to the current FFP situ. We will have amortised £2m for 22/23 as planned (worse case if his fee was £6m), and then we "terminated" him in Sept which falls into 23/24 FFP calculations, so will be a £4m amortisation for 23/24 which whilst not ideal, still doesn't currently matter.

 

[congo_red_49]

So the transfer fee could also be £0, which means the only effect on FFP of terminating his contract was to save £60-70k per week in this year's figures.

That does depend on the question of whether we paid him up, or not, though.

 

[Collymore!]

That does depend on the question of whether we paid him up, or not, though.

True, but if we did then that payment would fall into 23/24's FFP year as it was September, and not impact the current discussion on 22/23.

 

[Raymondo Ponte']

Another anomoly, how many more??

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

Terminated!

 

[Gyros Peter]

Terminated!

The terminator has removed a star, the cheeky ****.

 

[congo_red_49]

The terminator has removed a star, the cheeky ****.

The Terminator was sent back in time, by the Evil ManCityNet, to erase one of our European Cup wins, as they couldn't handle having less than us.

 

[Collymore!]

edit: it actually doesn't affect amortisation for 22/23 FFP at all, so is a completely irrelevant discussion to the current FFP situ. We will have amortised £2m for 22/23 as planned (worse case if his fee was £6m), and then we "terminated" him in Sept which falls into 23/24 FFP calculations, so will be a £4m amortisation for 23/24 which whilst not ideal, still doesn't currently matter.

Probably a coincidence, but if we did terminate his contract in September and therefore added £4m to the 23/24 FFP calculations, we "sold" Biaconne to Olympiacos at a similar time, Biaconne initially cost us around £5m. If we paid 50% of Jonjo's salary to leave, that's around 750k to the FFP hit.

This one is a bit of a nothing-burger, albeit maybe quick decisions were needed with the maximum loan situation. Either way, we did;t want him on the books for two years I would argue.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

The terminator has removed a star, the cheeky ****.

Maybe he went back in time and assassinated John Robertson, thereby preventing the goal that won us European Cup #2

Although if he did he wouldn't have been there to cross it in for Francis to win us the first either

Time travel eh?!

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Also, are we entirely sure that isn't Richard O'Brien?

Future Zone certainly got a lot more mean if so

 

[Captain Sinister]

Maybe he went back in time and assassinated John Robertson, thereby preventing the goal that won us European Cup #2

Although if he did he wouldn't have been there to cross it in for Francis to win us the first either

Time travel eh?!

There is no such thing as time... keep up with the Physicists

 

[Mr. Blonde]

There is no such thing as time... keep up with the Physicists

Sorry I haven't got time

 

[Raymondo Ponte']

If I only had time..

 

[Mr. Blonde]

 

[Redemption]

 

[Strummer]

Well, there you go. FIFA might still be interested, but there, I’m sure the right kind of envelope can deal with that.

 

[Strummer]

Bit embarrassing that nobody at Forest can count to seven, though.

 

[Otis Redding]

Surely, the end justified the means on this occasion?

 

[Est.1865]

Bit embarrassing that nobody at Forest can count to seven, though.

They basically thought the Alex Mighten loan was an U21 loan and therefore don’t count within the seven allowed.

An oversight never the less.

 

[Redemption]

Bit of an explanation here

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1742976640949354749

 

[Robertson]

So the seven are Mighten, Richards, Scarpa, Laryea, Dennis, Mbe Soh, and …. Freuler I guess. But I thought Freuler was a permanent move?