Harry Arter

[Flaggers]

The lesson here is that contracts should be made separate to registrations, and contracts should reflect the player's approach.

So for example, Arter could be on minimum wage because he's nowhere near the 1st team.

Example 2: Player "downs tools".
Club terminates the player's contract.
Club retains the player's registration until its expiry, which would be the original contract end date.
Player is free to sign for whoever he wants but he can't play because his registration is held by the other club.
Players will stop "downing tools"

Finally, link an absolute maximum weekly/monthly/annual remuneration to the length of the contract. The one is directly proportional to the other.

Sorted.

 

[Gyros Peter]

You pay your money, you take your chance. Hasn't worked out at all, but now serves as a reminder of how things used to be when we'd have a manager building his side only to be sacked seven or eight games later.

 

[Samba's Water Bottle]

Was it Arter who told Dan Gosling not to join us? If so he's done us a favour there as we could have been lumbered with two of them.

 

[mysteryduck]

I've got nothing against him. We can speculate that he's stopped trying or has a bad attitude but don't think there's any evidence of that.

This story randomly appearing doesn't speak very well of the club though, assuming the journo hasn't just randomly decided to write about it...

 

[valspoodle]

This one just didn't work out. You pays your money etc.

Just take it on the chin and carry on. It's finite and he'll be gone soon.

All sorts of cliches, but they are true. As the proverb says, it's no use crying over spilt milk.

 

[Gyros Peter]

And while he's made plenty cash from us, you'd imagine Arter will be the more regretful of the move, having gone from PL player to non functioning counties league clogger in about two years.

There was an interview some time back where I got the impression he was mentally broken after his decline for whatever reason - probably more to it than just football, but bank balance aside he won't look back with any kind of fondness over this move.

 

[Redemption]

he was mentally broken after his decline

Wasn't it the death of his young daughter?

 

[Gyros Peter]

Wasn't it the death of his young daughter?

I inferred that's a big part of it but that there was more to it. Who knows really, and Arter and family have my sympathy in having to go through that as I've said before.

 

[Doctor Gonzo]

3rd longest serving squad member behind Worrall and Yates (joined the day before McKenna), sooooo longest serving non acadamy player.

I used the words “serving” and “player” as i can’t think what the alternatives would be.

 

[stantonred]

As grating as it is for us commoners, in his shoes, getting a ridiculous amount of money for doing nowt and seeing the contract out, would any of us honestly say we’d give that up?

If it really is 40k a week, 2 million a year for 2 years, sees him in a comfortable retirement at 33.

I’m well past 33 now but someone offers me 4 million to sit on my arse for 2 years and then retire, I’m snatching their hand off

 

[Redemption]

I used the words “serving” and “player” as i can’t think what the alternatives would be

"Contracted employee."

That's the knub of the issue.

 

[McKenzie]

Its pretty obvious this is coming from the club to force his hand as why on earth would any paper consider this news, its not going to get many clicks or sell many copies is it!

 

[Otis Redding]

Its pretty obvious this is coming from the club to force his hand as why on earth would any paper consider this news, its not going to get many clicks or sell many copies is it!

It conveniently fills space though if there's insufficient actual news to report - not that the Mail needs any excuse to print fluff of course.

 

[Highland Red]

Forest U21's won 4-1 away at Gedling Miners Welfare in the County Cup tonight. Arter captained the side.

 

[Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD.]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1721978889151435199

 

[redforest]

Forest U21's won 4-1 away at Gedling Miners Welfare in the County Cup tonight. Arter captained the side.

Wow just wow, maybe we know nothing of the circumstances he has had to deal with and he is actually contributing to the development of the youngsters. There is no way he is getting anywhere near the first team squad - it has progressed quite a bit since he signed but I am very happy for him to be seemingly gaining some self worth considering the shit time he has been through. It may not have all been his fault…

 

[BryanRoy22]

Wow just wow, maybe we know nothing of the circumstances he has had to deal with and he is actually contributing to the development of the youngsters. There is no way he is getting anywhere near the first team squad - it has progressed quite a bit since he signed but I am very happy for him to be seemingly gaining some self worth considering the shit time he has been through. It may not have all been his fault…

True. I don't think many of us knew about Lansbury having testicular cancer when he was here.

 

[Steve Chettles Brylcream]

Wow just wow, maybe we know nothing of the circumstances he has had to deal with and he is actually contributing to the development of the youngsters. There is no way he is getting anywhere near the first team squad - it has progressed quite a bit since he signed but I am very happy for him to be seemingly gaining some self worth considering the shit time he has been through. It may not have all been his fault…

Walk a mile in another mans shoes etc.. Forest are a family

 

[Omar Devone Little]

Wow just wow, maybe we know nothing of the circumstances he has had to deal with and he is actually contributing to the development of the youngsters. There is no way he is getting anywhere near the first team squad - it has progressed quite a bit since he signed but I am very happy for him to be seemingly gaining some self worth considering the shit time he has been through. It may not have all been his fault…

If he is 'dealing with something' and there is no evidence he is to be fair, then the reported £40k+ a week he gets from us without actually having to do anything might help him a bit.

The bloke basically won the lottery.

 

[Redemption]

If he is 'dealing with something' and there is no evidence he is to be fair

It had to be you, Omar

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/harry-arter-opens-up-grief-29250643

 

[Omar Devone Little]

It had to be you, Omar

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/harry-arter-opens-up-grief-29250643

Granted. But that happened a long time before he signed here and in the meantime he managed to play almost 100 Premier League games and 15 internationals for Ireland.

 

[Thomas]

Might as well make the dude a coach.


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[youreds1986]

He signed a contract here, is seemingly working hard and doing whatever is asked of him. He's clearly respected enough to give him a leadership role with the youngsters. He's not good enough for our first team, he didn't make that decision, Forest did.

And still people want to give him shit and pretend that they would rip up their own contract in his situation...

 

[Redemption]

Granted. But that happened a long time before he signed here and in the meantime he managed to play almost 100 Premier League games and 15 internationals for Ireland.

I suppose you'd be over the loss of your daughter in a flash for 40k/week

 

[Omar Devone Little]

I suppose you'd be over the loss of your daughter in a flash for 40k/week

I originally typed out a longer response to this but this is a sensitive topic so I'll just reiterate the point that he has played a lot of football, at a high level for a long period of time between his personal tragedy and joining Forest and I'll leave it at that..