'Good' football club owners

Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

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Sorry for ripping this out of the Marinakis thread, but I think it will get lost in their, and it's something I'm genuinely interested to consider (so please don't read I to this as pro Marinakis manoeuvring - it's an honest question):

I'm interested to know which teams fan's think they have good owners and who we from the outside looking in would class as those - I can't think of too many candidates (Luton perhaps given their journey, Brighton? I remember Spurs being mentioned before).

In the top two tiers of the English game who do we think has 'good owners'?
 
Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

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Hope she doesn't mind me pulling the response into here - @Lady Penelope put forward Leicester's owners (text in bold with my reply after, just to have all the chat in this one)

I used to think that Leicester had the best owners. Good decisions on managerial appointments at the right time; good recruitment (buy low sell high); foresight in developing their training facilities: long term plans for the stadium; actually winning things ..... but then, we now find out that they too are in a financial mess. I think that the Thai people have done well overall but, perhaps more recently, it's gone badly wrong.

@Gyros Peter: Having a reasonable insight into Thai society/culture I always expected it to - Chansiri at Weds is a pretty good example of how I expected Leicester to go, which it kind of is doing now albeit after a tragedy.

King Power have been involved in some very dodgy dealings since before (including and after) their Leicester days btw - they're corrupt.
 
eyupmeduck

eyupmeduck

Geoff Thomas
I think it depends on the measure of success but is very much a snapshot in time because those that are seen as being good now weren't necessarily before and vice versa..

Examples of this for me are Brighton, before they became a feeder club for Chelsea were very much like us in terms of low finishes and overspending in the transfer market (Versus revenue) but after a few years now are seen as the model to follow.

Villa have sailed so close to the financial precipice and had until appointing their last manager spent heavily but not been successful.

Both of those clubs are recognised for where they are but not the journey that they have been on to get them there, I don't know if it would be the same for us at all but I don't think we are where we aim to be on any front really but if you read back old Villa forums for example they had the same thoughts that we did, especially after selling Grealish and not necessarily investing that money fully wisely.

I realise my answer is more about clubs not necessarily being well run all of the time so I do think Brentford seem to be well run (As much of their fanbase are knobbers) and lower down the pyramid Burton at least were but obviously the organisation of a club does not always translate to success on the pitch for it fwiw.

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Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

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eyupmeduck said:
I think it depends on the measure of success but is very much a snapshot in time because those that are seen as being good now weren't necessarily before and vice versa..

Examples of this for me are Brighton, before they became a feeder club for Chelsea were very much like us in terms of low finishes and overspending in the transfer market (Versus revenue) but after a few years now are seen as the model to follow.

Villa have sailed so close to the financial precipice and had until appointing their last manager spent heavily but not been successful.

Both of those clubs are recognised for where they are but not the journey that they have been on to get them there, I don't know if it would be the same for us at all but I don't think we are where we aim to be on any front really but if you read back old Villa forums for example they had the same thoughts that we did, especially after selling Grealish and not necessarily investing that money fully wisely.

I realise my answer is more about clubs not necessarily being well run all of the time so I do think Brentford seem to be well run (As much of their fanbase are knobbers) and lower down the pyramid Burton at least were but obviously the organisation of a club does not always translate to success on the pitch for it fwiw.

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I agree with the snapshot thing. My own quite simplistic view is that billionaires by their very definition have to be awful people, so none.

(Though perhaps Luton's because they've had theirs since the bottom of the tier irrc, and they only have hundreds of millions so must be fine*)

* Honestly, anyone who has more than say 5m these days in the bank is going to be quite a bit of a prick I think!
 
Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

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Villa I think have done very well with their current managerial appointment - it's always a dice roll but that I would imagine probably drove the Cooper to Nuno (down from Lotepegui* iirc) move from our owner. We'll see how that goes...

* Wonder if his look at our future financials put him off?
 
valspoodle

valspoodle

Steve Chettle
Except for the biggest clubs who just seem to roll on despite their owners, think Man U and the Galzers for instence, as mentioned just now, most owners depend on being lucky to get a good manager, who tides them over until they get the rubbish manager they luckily avouded and start going downhill. Then they suddenly become rubbish owners.

As I constantly say, fans just want success and that means on the pitch. If that's going well, the owners have a bit of breathing space.
 
Rubics

Rubics

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If you want to drop down to league 1 the radfords have been brilliant for stags over 10/11 years. Lansdown at Bristol city has been good for the club but not had success on the pitch. Fulham’s owner seems to be doing ok. Guy at Hull seems to have got something going as well.
 
Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

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Rubics said:
If you want to drop down to league 1 the radfords have been brilliant for stags over 10/11 years. Lansdown at Bristol city has been good for the club but not had success on the pitch. Fulham’s owner seems to be doing ok. Guy at Hull seems to have got something going as well.
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Playing side we'd be doing our nut if Lansdowne was our owner - sold Semenyo and Scott and didn't reinvest (enough), treading water league position wise. They have the components in place now so you'd hope they go for it sooner rather than later. Only looked a couple of good forwards short to me.
 
Redemption

Redemption

Chief Eye Roller
Oxymoron, surely?
 
Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

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Khan at Fulham is as good a shout as any I think. 'Just' has the 11.5 billion and views himself as custodian of the club on behalf of the fans, while charging them an absolute fortune to watch them apparently. London though, and that aside . they seem reasonably happy with him. More so than his NFL teams' fans.
 
GreeksBearingGifts

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
As I've repeated more than once, a good owner is someone who leaves a club in a better overall position (status, financial situation, fan feeling, etc.) than the one he inherited. In other words, for most current owners, it's too soon to tell. The only good owners are dead ones.
 
valspoodle

valspoodle

Steve Chettle
The bunch of Americans who bought Ipswich didn't seem to have a clue when listening to their first interviews after purchase, but they have turned out to be a good crowd. Sorted out so much, invested in the playing side and turned things round in no time.
 
Robertson

Robertson

Viv Anderson
Rubics said:
Hasn’t he just put them up for sale?
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If so, whether he’s been a good owner kind of depends on who he sells them to. Similar to @GreeksBearingGifts was saying, in the end it really depends where owners leave clubs when they eventually go.

On the other hand I suppose the journey is also important.

Portsmouth a good example here. Yes they’ve been f**ked for 10+ years and it’s been touch and go for them at times. But they’ll always have that FA cup win and are now back in the Championship. So life goes on.
 
Robertson

Robertson

Viv Anderson
Like, I suppose what I’m saying is that obviously Portsmouth circa 2011 are a terrible example of “good” owners, but what “good” is kind of depends what you want out of the game. Pottering along being tremendously fiscally prudent for fifteen years, maybe getting the odd promotion and relegation here and there? Or going all in and possibly winning a trophy? Or crashing and burning before you get there?

I dunno the answer really, just thinking out loud 😂
 
G

Gareth Edds

First Team Squad
I hate to say this, and i feel dirty saying it, but Liverpool owners have done a good job, considering where they took over the club from.

Norwich seemed to keep their club in good shape, but never took a chance when in PL. But it turned out their debt kept growing.........

Brentford seem well run.

And im sure Villa supporters right now think their owners have played a blinder........though in 2 years with PSR?

Arguably though the best owners are easily the Glaziers..... they seemed to have made money as a PL owner:)))
 
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