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Forest will play to their strengths

thehockleyhustler

Stuart Pearce
ALEX McLeish says Nottingham Forest will play their way to success under his management.

The new Reds boss insists he will play to his side's strengths as they look to secure a place in the Premier League – and that means they will continue to favour passing football.

The former Rangers, Birmingham and Villa manager was initially given a lukewarm reception by many Forest fans, who fear he will introduce a more negative approach to the one favoured by his predecessor, Sean O'Driscoll.

But McLeish does want his squad to maintain their passing ethos, saying: "I am not going to tell Elliott Ward or Danny Collins to start punting the ball up to wee Billy Sharp up front. We have to play to our strengths.

"The owners have not come in and said they want us to play like Barcelona. Nor have they said not to play a long ball game. There is more than one way to skin a cat, to win a football match.

"If you look at the Forest goals against Leeds, one of them came from a long ball up to big Dexter, who flicked it on for Billy to round the keeper and score. That was effective.

"But I will only ask the players to play the way they see the game. How can I tell Andy Reid that, when he gets the ball, he has to ping it forward?

"There has never been one team I have coached, there has never been one player I have told not to pass the ball.

"My philosophy is to win matches. We have good passers here and we will make the most of that. People have said I am negative, but that perhaps is just because I am organised."

McLeish accepts he will have to win supporters over, following his appointment, but is not fazed by the prospect.

"It is the same as it was when I went to Rangers. Some fans expected a bigger name and I thought to myself that it was up to me to change their opinion. I felt that I did that," he said.

"If I go back to Rangers, we had one of the best footballing sides to have played there in a long time. Martin O'Neill had built a really strong side at Celtic and they were kicking Rangers' backsides at the time.

"I inherited some terrific players. There was just something that wasn't working, that was making sure that we did not beat Celtic. We had Ronald De Boer and Claudio Caniggia and we got these boys to express themselves a little bit more; to get the tempo up higher.

"We ended up winning seven trophies within three years. That team played tremendous football. Hibs, that team I built, played tremendous football.

"Sometimes you have to maximise your resources, when you don't quite have the top passers in your team.

"It is about getting the right players. I am not saying there were not any passers of the ball at Villa, there were. We tried to play dynamic football. But Hibs and Rangers were excellent footballing teams and this Forest side can pass the ball as well."

Nottingham Forest's game at home to Crystal Palace today (3pm) was subject to a pitch inspection at 9.30am at the City Ground.

http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/story-17710672-detail/story.html?

It has certainly eased my mind a little regarding the type of football it was assumed he wants us to playing. I guess the proof will be what we see on the pitch though in the coming weeks.

COME ON YOU REDS!
 

sedgred

Banned
Organised being the ''cover all aspects'' approach here.

Looks a very original approach from a new manager who is not universally welcomed with open arms :facepalm:
 

marshal99

John Robertson
All managers play long ball when needed , all the talk of SOD playing tippy tappy stuff this season ended up forest being the most dangerous when we went the long route. With no width and a narrow midfield , often we have resorted to the long hoof from Collins & Camp this season.

The way to play is to mix and match , Billy Davies did it well for a while but in his last season , remember all the fans frustration when the ball keeps going back to Morgan to hoof it upfront to nobody.

The "forest way" is a myth that is being used to batter every manager that has stepped into the mangement of forest since the days of clough.
 
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thehockleyhustler

Stuart Pearce
Whilst SoD style of football is more the type of thing I like to see, it could also be rather dull a times.

For the past few months, our build up play has be far too slow and predictable for the opposition to counter. When we did it with speed and energy, we saw the best of this Forest side.
 

marshal99

John Robertson
Whilst SoD style of football is more the type of thing I like to see, it could also be rather dull a times.

For the past few months, our build up play has be far too slow and predictable for the opposition to counter. When we did it with speed and energy, we saw the best of this Forest side.

How often has that happened ? I'm willing to wager that we saw more times of Camp hoofing it upfront this season than we saw of forest playing it with speed and energy.
 

thehockleyhustler

Stuart Pearce
How often has that happened ? I'm willing to wager that we saw more times of Camp hoofing it upfront this season than we saw of forest playing it with speed and energy.

Certainly not enough or we would be much closer to the top 2 than we are now.

In fact, only on Wednesday did I hear a chant of "we play on the floor", when the ball spent a good 30 seconds in the air with the players playing head tennis.
 

puds1970

Steve Chettle
So he hasn't said that we will play hoofball then?.
Mind you he'd best not say it too early in his reign had he.
 

Forever Forest

Geoff Thomas
The football for the last couple of months has been terrible for the most part.

Watford away was as bad as I can remember. I think we as fans are in love with the idea of having a pass master in charge. If you call passing the ball backwards to camp and accross the back four good football then we did. We have been to negative. SOD over analysed everything. We just need to start playing football higher up the pitch with more intensity and a desire to win every match. I hope AM can install this mentality.
 

Erik

oopsy daisy!
LTLF Minion
Give him a chance. Maybe he will marry the passing SOD was trying to instill with a slightly more energetic and direct approach to create something that is good to watch?
 

Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Encouraging stuff to be fair. Let's hope it's more than just hot air.



The football for the last couple of months has been terrible for the most part.

Watford away was as bad as I can remember. I think we as fans are in love with the idea of having a pass master in charge. If you call passing the ball backwards to camp and accross the back four good football then we did. We have been to negative. SOD over analysed everything. We just need to start playing football higher up the pitch with more intensity and a desire to win every match. I hope AM can install this mentality.

But the first couple of months was great for the most part too.

Cox, Raddy & Ayala injured? Football quality suffers. They return? Hello Leeds 4-2.

Why is it so difficult for some to see that, when our best and ball-players are fit, we play better football?

People are also talking as if were the finished artical, which SOD himself said numerous times we weren't, and that pace/width/trickery etc. were things he was looking to address in the Jan window.

And those numpty's who will give it "Raddy was fit for X time but he didn't play him" need to get a grip on real life - he's fragile, he's a confidence player, and if you can't understand the manager giving him a week or two before he risks him then your watching the wrong game.
 
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incapable hulk

Best served cold
Give him a chance. Maybe he will marry the passing SOD was trying to instill with a slightly more energetic and direct approach to create something that is good to watch?

Thats what im hoping for.
 

Clifford

Viv Anderson
All managers play long ball when needed , all the talk of SOD playing tippy tappy stuff this season ended up forest being the most dangerous when we went the long route. With no width and a narrow midfield , often we have resorted to the long hoof from Collins & Camp this season.

The way to play is to mix and match , Billy Davies did it well for a while but in his last season , remember all the fans frustration when the ball keeps going back to Morgan to hoof it upfront to nobody.

The "forest way" is a myth that is being used to batter every manager that has stepped into the mangement of forest since the days of clough.

The Forest way is not a myth, we just haven't seen it for so long it feels that way.

Successive owners have not properly recognised it and with the exception of Hart we haven't had a manager to suit the club ethos since Clark.

The culture of this club should never be forgotten, it is the only thing that put us in the top league. Without it we are no bigger than 15 other clubs in this league and will stay in the Championship.

Swansea play the way we should and are reaping the benefits. There are still Forest men in football who know this club. We need one before the culture of the club is eroded fully. Another 15 years and it will be gone for good.
 

RedFaithful

First Team Squad
when you complain about the team just passing around the back four you have to consider that that is the first step of passing football surely? Over time the passing develops from the back four to the midfield and eventually across the whole team. Impatience once again has been a downfall to us, a club who think we are challenging for the premier league instead of accepting the truth.
 

Forever Forest

Geoff Thomas
when you complain about the team just passing around the back four you have to consider that that is the first step of passing football surely? Over time the passing develops from the back four to the midfield and eventually across the whole team. Impatience once again has been a downfall to us, a club who think we are challenging for the premier league instead of accepting the truth.

Not at all. Why can't we just play our football further up the field? I'm a big believer in possession is 9/10ths of the law but we have the players to hurt teams when we play higher up and attack teams. The forest way, free flowing attacking football. Our big problem is defending so why we would want to keep the ball near our own net is beyond me

Can't see how wanting to play attacking football is impatient.
 

tomasj

Geoff Thomas
Give him a chance. Maybe he will marry the passing SOD was trying to instill with a slightly more energetic and direct approach to create something that is good to watch?

Right now, I see no better option, really.
We could have had worse. We could have had Cotterill, no money, no players and been bottom both of the league and the local S&M club.
 

Forever Forest

Geoff Thomas
Encouraging stuff to be fair. Let's hope it's more than just hot air.





But the first couple of months was great for the most part too.

Cox, Raddy & Ayala injured? Football quality suffers. They return? Hello Leeds 4-2.

Why is it so difficult for some to see that, when our best and ball-players are fit, we play better football?

People are also talking as if were the finished artical, which SOD himself said numerous times we weren't, and that pace/width/trickery etc. were things he was looking to address in the Jan window.

And those numpty's who will give it "Raddy was fit for X time but he didn't play him" need to get a grip on real life - he's fragile, he's a confidence player, and if you can't understand the manager giving him a week or two before he risks him then your watching the wrong game.

Were we that good in the first two months?

Huddersfield and Charlton were to two stand out games - against two promoted teams.

In September we played Leeds and Palace away and Derby at home three games on the trot, all three were very poor performances.

I know we wernt the finished article thats why I dont think he should sacked and was very harshly treated. I'm a romantic and would of loved nothing more for him to get us playing like swansea and develop youth etc. But the long and short of it is we havnt been playing well enough and the results wernt good enough so in modern day football managers get sacked for this. Harsh but true

Leeds at home for the first 45 mins we were terrible. Fair play to SOD he must have said something at 1/2 because we were brilliant 2nd half. Not being perdantic but Ayala and Cox didnt play against Leeds and the squad we have should be able to cope with injuries.
 

Barbus

Steve Chettle
The aim of the game is winning. There's a load of bullshit spoke about long ball managers or passing managers.
No one plays 100% long ball and no one plays 100% on the deck.
If fat Sam can get himself accepted at West Ham by providing success, AM can gain acceptance here the same way.
As I said in another thread, everyone cheers at the final whistle when their team wins the game.
Pass, pass, pass, pass, lose is no fun, I don't care what anybody says. Look back at all the matchday threads when we've lost if you don't believe me.
 

marshal99

John Robertson
Right now, I see no better option, really.
We could have had worse. We could have had Cotterill, no money, no players and been bottom both of the league and the local S&M club.

If Fawaz had retained Cotterill , i'm pretty sure he would have likely goten more from the resources given than SOD. Cotterill knows the blueprint of what had worked , has an idea of what he needs and what players he's going to play. He would have gotten the right players in , would have bought wingers to replace McCleary and wouldn't have played Guedioura out on the right like SOD did for long parts of the season.
 

incapable hulk

Best served cold
Hes also have signed the likes of Luke Varney and gone for physical players. Wed still have Tudgay up front with Harewood.
 

London Forest

First Team Squad
Job 1 - Get out of this god damn awful league.
Job 2 - Stabilise ourselves in the Premier League.
Job 3 - Develop pretty football.

Job 3 is a bonus if combined with steps 1 or 2, but only that, a bonus, not a necessity.
 

Huxley

John Robertson
He's probably stood in his garden as we speak still yelling, "hit the corners!!"
 
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