Earnshaw

[adam09]

I've read some bizzare things about Earnie in the aftermath of today's game. Someone called him "lethal", whilst a couple of others took the route of refering to his past record. Someone else even claimed he doesn't get any chances!

Sorry but that is all bollocks. I like the guy, he's an ok player, but the guy is an average striker. Watch the Championship highlights... You could pick out a few teams worth of players who would have buried the chances Earnie had today.

I know this will upset the Earnie lovers but it had to be said, the guy is so overrated.

Blackstock and Tyson to start up front v Scunny.

 

[RICH1977]

I watched him in the warm up and noticed he failed to bury most of the shots he took on then most where just staright down the throat of the keeper, I agree he needs games to get form but we dont have that time atm we need results so just stick with dex

 

[goatboy]

It's difficult - Earnie enver has a rep for bad runs of form because he seems to get dropped as soon as he goes a game or two without netting. We don;t have a single 'eye of the tiger' forward at present, though Dex hs done alright he's also missed sitters. Out of the lot of them, I trust Earnshaw most to deliver, given the opportunity, in the long term.

Presently each striker will just view their turn as their turn. Davies needs to establish a pecking order, so #1 striker knows who is breathing down his neck and #2 striker knows what he has t be better than. Presently all they have to do is look at Anderson and know that whatever they achieve they'll be rotated out.

 

[dbarraclough]

It seems to be a poor motivational strategy by BD. Players underperforming will get their chance so no need to work any harder and players like Ando must be thinking whats the point?

 

[Annesley Red]

but who would play your smallest striker alone up front against two big centre halves, Ernies partner should have been Adebola, bad management.
What did McGoldbrick do anyway

I agree Ernie should have put his chances away

 

[south coast red]

I've read some bizzare things about Earnie in the aftermath of today's game. Someone called him "lethal", whilst a couple of others took the route of refering to his past record. Someone else even claimed he doesn't get any chances!

Sorry but that is all b*****ks. I like the guy, he's an ok player, but the guy is an average striker. Watch the Championship highlights... You could pick out a few teams worth of players who would have buried the chances Earnie had today.

I know this will upset the Earnie lovers but it had to be said, the guy is so overrated.

Blackstock and Tyson to start up front v Scunny.

cant agree more I don't know if anyone noticed but the chance tyson had just before they broke away and scored afterwards Earnshaw was giving him an earful for not passing while it is good earnshaw wanted the ball he kept on arguing and not tracking back unlike tyson who tried to get back but arguing insted of defending and after all that earnshaw didn't score with his chances.

 

[Snake]

Earnshaw was poor yesterday.

But what do you really expect from the striker who has featured least of all in our campaign so far?

I don't think anyone has ever portrayed Earnshaw as world-class. He is a good player who scores goals. Sometimes, the cost of this is that he doesn't do work in other areas of the pitch. However, his track record tells you he can get 20 goals in this league if he plays every week, which for me offsets that cost considerably.

Billy, however, likes grinders. That's why all his hard-working strikers have played more this season. Earnshaw missed chances yesterday, but every one of Adebola, Blackstock, McGoldrick, Garner and Tyson have missed chances too.

Earnshaw is our best goalscorer. His record makes that irrefutable fact.

I would agree that there are many aspects of his game that are distinctly average, but he is a good goalscorer. Last season he got into the top scorer's chart when playing far fewer matches than a lot of other players. He needs a partner alongside him to make up for what he doesn't do.

What you will find is, when you throw Earnie up top on his own and ask him to do the harrying job of the lone striker, that Earnie is crap. There are some conspiracy theorists who would even suggest that Davies specifically set out to prove that point yesterday (I am not one of them).

 

[t8_red]

i agree earnie is up front on his own then they shouldnt play the long ball but while the ball is on the floor he shouldnt have a problem.
i'm just wondering if annesley corner flag red is gary roe?

 

[Jonno]

If Joe Garner had a run of games, up front. Not in midfield. I'm pretty certain he'll find the net, and regularly. For me, He's our best striker. Joe and Dexter to start next week for me.

 

[weasel]

This thread is laughable. We've only got one player who you could almost put your house on getting 20 if he played every game, and that's Earnshaw. Without his poor contribution of only scoring 16 goals we would almost certainly be back in league one.

McGoldrick looks decent but he's not fit to lace Earnshaw's boots currently and I for one am seeing a definite correlation between us having very few points and Earnshaw's very few minutes. The Earnshaw 'lovers' know full well he's not world class, but he's certainly class at this level.

Blackpool started Bret Ormerod up front yesterday. What do you think they might say if someone offered them Robert Earnshaw? Exactly.

 

[dwayne99]

This thread is laughable. We've only got one player who you could almost put your house on getting 20 if he played every game, and that's Earnshaw. Without his poor contribution of only scoring 16 goals we would almost certainly be back in league one.

earnshaw is lazy and over rated he wont get 20 goals if he started everygame because he don't try hard enough

 

[garibaldi]

There's some f***ing drama queens in this thread.

 

[nffc1991]

He has already proved at this level that despite weak points of his game he will score goals consistently throughout the season, like all strikers he does have bad spells but he simply isn't effective on his own upfront. If we are to play the 4-3-3 then I would expect players like Tyson/Anderson on the wing with McGoldrick/Blackstock perhaps upfront or even Adebola to work off. When we play 2 upfront then Earnshaw shoudl start in my opinion.

 

[Annesley Red]

i agree earnie is up front on his own then they shouldnt play the long ball but while the ball is on the floor he shouldnt have a problem.
i'm just wondering if annesley corner flag red is gary roe?

am I that obvious lol

 

[t8_red]

am I that obvious lol

defo

 

[RRRREDUN]

I was so wazzed off with yeasterday's team selection that I was rude to Ebeneezer on a totally different matter - for that I am sorry, Eb. The Earnie issue for me is slightly more complex. I really think that the team selection and formation was not fair on him. Sure, we missed a few chances, but IMHO we should have put out a team AT HOME where we didn't, in effect, leave one striker on his own up front. Blackpool were there for the taking and we should have launched wave upon wave of dangerous attacks. Earnie is a spring-heeled guy, but a good CB should always outjump him where it matters. Why on earth play McGoldrick and then let him slip back into midfield, denying Earnie the support he needed? I said it yesterday - I genuinely believe team selection cost us the match - I know I'm not the only one to think this. Earnie needs a run to get some understanding with another player (eg Blackstock). Then we'll see the best of him. I believe that normally we shouldn't chop and change the team, and only make changes when we need to during the match, and certainly not too late like we made them against Blackpool. Sometimes it makes sense to have a slightly different formation away from home, but we should have a lethal attack home or away. We must play to our strengths. I can just see us playing defensively at say Newcastle, invite them to run at us and get turned over. Our best chance surely is to play an attacking game and let them try to cope with us.........

 

[nunuschmu]

Daft thread IMO.
Earnie's record is the best out of our strikers, dex missed a few sitters last time he played didn't he?, garner had potential yes but has never shown consistency. I don't think we can make any judgements based on yesterdays fiasco, one of the only starts earnie's had this season - the whole team were out of sorts, bad formation, bad selection.

Oh well that's my two penneth.

 

[weasel]

Daft thread IMO.
Earnie's record is the best out of our strikers, dex missed a few sitters last time he played didn't he?, garner had potential yes but has never shown consistency. I don't think we can make any judgements based on yesterdays fiasco, one of the only starts earnie's had this season - the whole team were out of sorts, bad formation, bad selection.

Oh well that's my two penneth.

it's also a very good two penneth

 

[incapable hulk]

earnshaw is lazy and over rated he wont get 20 goals if he started everygame because he don't try hard enough

Yet last season he very nearly got that many despite being out injured for large parts of it. If he played every game, he wouldve got alot more than 20.

As for the earnie debate, I think its a side effect of the defence hitting so many long balls. The guys barely over 5 foot tall. How do people expect him to flourish in that sort of role?
Hes playing the lone striker pretty much as mcgoldrick seemed to spend more time defending. Hes got no one to pass to when he does get it to feet so has to go it alone.

On another note, i was in las iguanas today with the mrs, and she said to me "isnt that that forest player who headbutted that derby player in the nuts?". I turned around and earnie was sat on the table next to us with what i can olny assume was his mrs!

People need to lay off earnie. Its easy to make a scapegoat, but the whole side deserves the criticism. Particuarly people like wes and chambers who whilst doing a good job defending, when it comes to playing the ball out...just hopefully hit it long.

 

[TOMBARNESFORESTFAN]

I've read some bizzare things about Earnie in the aftermath of today's game. Someone called him "lethal", whilst a couple of others took the route of refering to his past record. Someone else even claimed he doesn't get any chances!

Sorry but that is all b*****ks. I like the guy, he's an ok player, but the guy is an average striker. Watch the Championship highlights... You could pick out a few teams worth of players who would have buried the chances Earnie had today.

I know this will upset the Earnie lovers but it had to be said, the guy is so overrated.





Blackstock and Tyson to start up front v Scunny.

totally agree, earnshaw has been lucky to even get substitute appearnces this season, and davies striking decisions have been much better than his midfield decisions. and earnshaw hasnt got good enough control, and he doesnt move. which pisses me off so much, even adebola moves and controls the ball much better. eanrshaw should be one of the last to be selected for me. if he went to newcastle or whoever it wouldnt be too bad.
overrated

 

[Bloke form Dublin]

Perhaps if the crosses had had any kind of pace on them instead of just being wafted over..........

 

[Chuck]

He's the best goalscorer we have in the team and just because he hasnt hit top form yet doesnt mean he isnt good enough. If our defence and midfield actually played it to him where he wants it instead of knocking long balls to him to beat a 6ft+ defender in the air, we might get a bit more success. Him on his own up front is not going to work. Play him with Adebola or Blackstock and he will get goals.

In fact i'm sure he scored a perfectly good goal yesterday, didnt look to me as if McGoldrick was offside, however i am willing to be corrected on that one, as my position in U1 isnt perfect for viewing line decisions over the far side.

 

[adam09]

Personally I think past records count for very little and good goal scoring seasons from years ago bare little relevance in today's game, for a totally different team.

It's now that matters, and you simply don't miss 3 great chances like that if you're a good striker. Whether you're on form or not, playing regularly or not, it doesn't matter... he took his goal vs Ipswich well, so that kind of negates that notion anyway. It was just poor finishing and I just got a bit fed up of the hype. He's overrated and no better than the other strikers who are working their arses off in positions other than that of striker, whilst Earnshaw hangs around up front barely doing anything, wanting his chances put on a plate for him by everybody else, and then wasting them when they are. If it was any of the others doing it they'd get slated, indeed Tyson did a while back now, even when he missed a couple of rare chances that he had. But fan favourite Earnshaw is still held up as some kind of goal scoring machine when he's not.

 

[RRRREDUN]

But that's Earnie's game. They reckon a good striker gets 1 goal in 3 games. Not everyone can get 2 in 3 a la Collymore but earnie's record is good. His problem surely is that he doesn't feel settled and starts panicking and snatching, worried that he'll be out next time. I can't see how this constant rotation can work. Everyone has to weigh in with goals. Yesterday, we needed 2 strikers - the odds of one of them picking up a goal suddenly increase.

 

[mouldy]

I disagree.

He is a good striker he isn't bang in form yet but he would've got 2 hadn't Rechubka been bang on form against us... AGAIN!!

His partner in McGoldrick didn't do him any favours either not only is he not a target man for when we choose to play long ball football, he was playing as a midfielder most of the time rather than a striker. Then 2nd half we became a 4-5-1 shape with Earnie upfront on his own let's face it that is not going to work with him upfront he can't hold the ball up against the defenders in this league they are too big and he isn't going to win headers against them.

Him and Adebola should be starting at home. They will get goals between them and it worked against Ipswich. Let's face it he hasn't had a consistent start in the side this season and when he does he is that isolated it's basically him against a back 4 most strikers in the world struggle with that challenge.

Aswell as that didn't have a perfectly legitimate goal disallowed yesterday? I am pretty sure McGoldrick was on side in fact the whole ground was because barely anyone bothered to look across to the linesman.

A consistent spell in the side goals will come. In a relegation battling season an average striker does not get 17 goals.