Does anyone remember League 1 Derby County? (STILL the worst team in history!)

[valspoodle]

Well, that that completes my education on Luke Phelps, pretend journalist and make believe football pundit.

Thanks for the info, I don't think I'll search out his blogs etc.

 

[Rzar]

How much leeway are the EFL going to give this lot?

They've been delaying this takeover again and again - surely once the fixture list is out the League will need some solid assurances that the club will exist for 22/23?

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If it’s not done this week they will change their tone, they will want it done before fixtures come out

 

[Otis Redding]

I think I've found his song -

I vividly recall that record bizarrely making the top-10 in the UK Hit Parade in the mid-60s.

 

[Notcher]

Are we all journalists?? We all write allot of dribble on the internet and some of our posts even get read

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I think he's confusing the fact that we are our own publishers these days. Ironic that he can publish in this way but the way he writes on twitter resembles 14 year old with zero grasp on how to debate or structure care to argue.

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[Redemption]

How much leeway are the EFL going to give this lot?

They've been delaying this takeover again and again - surely once the fixture list is out the League will need some solid assurances that the club will exist for 22/23?

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This week is the end of tbe Road.

If Kirchner's deal fails, Quantuma will be given a brief extension to get a last minute deal with Ashley or similar over the line.

EFL need to ussue the Golden Share, Derby has to have both a legal funded structure in place and stadium to play in.

The deadline is approaching fast and could very much a dead line for the rams to cross.

 

[Beardo7]

Afternoon all.

I am away this week and the Van and the signal is shite at best.

Shame the mk2 thread died as it was 1800k pages of comedy gold!

The king is dead, long live the king!

Glad I managed to piss a few off with my Jobber post - not sure wasn’t true!?

Anyway, just about got my voice back 1 week ago today I was on my 6th pint before one of the greatest afternoons us Forest fans under 40 (I am just!) experienced.

Enjoy L1 - If you make it that far….


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[Notcher]

My new novel.

I'd like this opportunity to thank fellow global reaching Journalists Luke and Daniel for their input into my investigation piece which is also available in hard back if you have a screen with a thick monitor.

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[Notcher]

Brilliant news chaps. Within seconds it smashed all previous readership figures set by Luke

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[HBB]

Probably the biggest skill decent journalists have is to produce work that reveals truth that is corroborated but pays attention to things like libel laws.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Mr Phelps and associated website disappear because as well as us and John Moss, he has libelled The EFL, The Premier League and Sky (Who has an owner who knows a thing or two about litigation).

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With my former journo hat on I thought it useful to bring some clarity here about who can or cannot be libelled. A libel claimant must establish that the words complained of are defamatory of him/her or it.

For a statement to be proved as being libellous is difficult as the test is very old-fashioned and vague. The statement complained about must lower the claimant in the estimation of right-thinking members of society generally, or is likely to affect a person adversely in the estimation of reasonable people generally.

The test is also specific to the precise words used. The words are judged by the standards of society generally at the time of publication rather than against the standards of a specific group or class of people within society.

A statement is not defamatory unless its publication has caused or is likely to cause serious harm to the reputation of the claimant.

Harm to the reputation of a body that trades for profit is not “serious harm” unless it has caused or is likely to cause the body serious financial loss. So people are on fairly safe ground if they are making defamatory remarks about an organisation like the EFL.

In the case of an individual only the person who believes they are being defamed may bring the libel proceedings. In the case of Moss I believe this would be a valid claim as even though that was his last game he has a legacy as a ref and is I think going to work on VAR so it would be well within the scope of the test to allege he is corrupt.

An organisation or legal entity such as a company can also bring libel proceedings if they are trying to protect their business reputation (e.g. a person says a pie manufacturer uses horse meat). However there is an extra test here, under Section 1 of the Defamation Act 2013 (the “serious harm requirement”) restricts the ability of claimants (including companies) to sue for defamation unless they can show that the remarks would/could/did create serious financial loss for the company.

Some organisations (e.g. an unincorporated charitable trust), cannot bring an action but a person within the organisation can sue as an individual if they are sufficiently identified in the statement concerned. So theoretically the comments by Derby fans that allege that Parry or even Gibson is personally guiding/influencing/directing the EFL's actions and that they are corrupt/illegal etc could mean that Gibson/Parry could bring an action as an individual as they have I believe been singled out sufficiently.

 

[I'm Red Till Dead]

Something that Daniel Taylor mentioned to him as well:
[TWEET]https://mobile.twitter.com/DTathletic/status/1533085582166999045[/TWEET]
https://mobile.twitter.com/DTathletic/status/1533085582166999045

I see the guy has limited access to his Twitter account now and is just preaching to those that might agree with him. I can't believe that the guy has nearly 4,000 follow. I wonder if that's 3,994 libel lawyers waiting for himto stray just a little further plus his mum. ers

(Not Taylor obviously, Luke Phelps)

 

[Rockabilly]

I vividly recall that record bizarrely making the top-10 in the UK Hit Parade in the mid-60s.

If you flip the 45rpm single over to the B side...

You get to hear the song in reverse.

You'll sleep better in your bed tonight for knowing this, Frank.

 

[Flaggers]

"Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed; everything else is public relations."

- George Orwell

 

[Rzar]

Big news.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/cskirchner/status/1533471830895382528[/TWEET]

(p.s. look at his "likes", he's been liking posts that are anti-trans!)

 

[Ashley]

Big news.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/cskirchner/status/1533471830895382528[/TWEET]

(p.s. look at his "likes", he's been liking posts that are anti-trans!)

Same pattern starting to emerge again. He always seems to tweet something completely and utterly irrelevant when a deadline is upcoming (despite him knowing full well that Derby fans are watching his Twitter page like a hawk). He then gets slightly stroppy with one or two fans the closer the deadline gets. Then the deadline passes and either an excuse or some form of extension is announced, and starts blocking any dissenters.

 

[Alvar Hanso]

Big news.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/cskirchner/status/1533471830895382528[/TWEET]

(p.s. look at his "likes", he's been liking posts that are anti-trans!)

Some pro Trump and anti vax tweets liked as well. Seems like Derby have got themselves a proper chomper

 

[Beardo7]

With my former journo hat on I thought it useful to bring some clarity here about who can or cannot be libelled. A libel claimant must establish that the words complained of are defamatory of him/her or it.

For a statement to be proved as being libellous is difficult as the test is very old-fashioned and vague. The statement complained about must lower the claimant in the estimation of right-thinking members of society generally, or is likely to affect a person adversely in the estimation of reasonable people generally.

The test is also specific to the precise words used. The words are judged by the standards of society generally at the time of publication rather than against the standards of a specific group or class of people within society.

A statement is not defamatory unless its publication has caused or is likely to cause serious harm to the reputation of the claimant.

Harm to the reputation of a body that trades for profit is not “serious harm” unless it has caused or is likely to cause the body serious financial loss. So people are on fairly safe ground if they are making defamatory remarks about an organisation like the EFL.

In the case of an individual only the person who believes they are being defamed may bring the libel proceedings. In the case of Moss I believe this would be a valid claim as even though that was his last game he has a legacy as a ref and is I think going to work on VAR so it would be well within the scope of the test to allege he is corrupt.

An organisation or legal entity such as a company can also bring libel proceedings if they are trying to protect their business reputation (e.g. a person says a pie manufacturer uses horse meat). However there is an extra test here, under Section 1 of the Defamation Act 2013 (the “serious harm requirement”) restricts the ability of claimants (including companies) to sue for defamation unless they can show that the remarks would/could/did create serious financial loss for the company.

Some organisations (e.g. an unincorporated charitable trust), cannot bring an action but a person within the organisation can sue as an individual if they are sufficiently identified in the statement concerned. So theoretically the comments by Derby fans that allege that Parry or even Gibson is personally guiding/influencing/directing the EFL's actions and that they are corrupt/illegal etc could mean that Gibson/Parry could bring an action as an individual as they have I believe been singled out sufficiently.

You can’t libel the dead.

So John Lennon - you sucked off goats.


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[Haych]

If the sale hasn’t gone through by Friday I’ll offer em a tenner

 

[Rockabilly]

So John Lennon - you sucked off goats.


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You're 'kidding'

 

[Captain Sinister]

You can’t libel the dead.

So John Lennon - you sucked off goats.


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Be warned: there may be another, still living John Lennon, and he is quite probably preparing a multi million libel claim against you...

 

[Battered Sausage]

Be warned: there may be another, still living John Lennon, and he is quite probably preparing a multi million libel claim against you...

Or he might have a goat fetish and not want to cause a fuss.


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[RedDogChris]

Some of their deluded lot think everything's going to be ok, that they can start making signings and they won't be facing any further deductions

 

[Statto]

Big news.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/cskirchner/status/1533471830895382528[/TWEET]

(p.s. look at his "likes", he's been liking posts that are anti-trans!)

Does Casper Ruud need to go on ze list for trying to stop Nadal getting another FO and slowing down CK buying the sheep?

 

[valspoodle]

I read somewhere this morning that Ashley wanted to come in with CK as a partner, but CK refused.

 

[eyupmeduck]

I read somewhere this morning that Ashley wanted to come in with CK as a partner, but CK refused.

I read that as well, think it was a Nixon special.

My immediate thought was that it sounded like a Jay from the inbetweeners type story!

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[Trents]

Big news.

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/cskirchner/status/1533471830895382528[/TWEET]

(p.s. look at his "likes", he's been liking posts that are anti-trans!)

Welcome to Derby

[Tweet]https://twitter.com/samnaylor92/status/1533496465460498433?[/tweet]