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Statto

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
Cortez the Killer said:
We are probably sacrificing having Garner if we take Henderson on loan only, so why not look elsewhere (or offer Samba more) and push for Garner back?

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Personally, I'd just ask Man U what they want for Garner and pay it.

He's a great lad, been around the place for a couple of years, fits in well here and is only 21 years old and only going to get better.
 
karteo

karteo

Jack Armstrong
Cortez the Killer said:
We are probably sacrificing having Garner if we take Henderson on loan only, so why not look elsewhere (or offer Samba more) and push for Garner back?

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Could it be that United doesn't want to loan Garner again and instead of him, and because they value Forest's project, counter-proposed/or accepted to discuss about Henderson?

There could be things nobody knows

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Cortez the Killer

Cortez the Killer

Impressive member
karteo said:
Could it be that United doesn't want to loan Garner again and instead of him, and because they value Forest's project, counter-proposed/or accepted to discuss about Henderson?

There could be things nobody knows

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Yes, could be.

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Mr RayReardon

Mr RayReardon

Jack Burkitt
Statto said:
Personally, I'd just ask Man U what they want for Garner and pay it.

He's a great lad, been around the place for a couple of years, fits in well here and is only 21 years old and only going to get better.
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Reality is, if Garner is to come, it won't happen until January. Then we'll have to fend off the likes of Leicester, Southampton and Leeds who'll be after his signature as well. United don't need to sell, don't really care about anybody but themselves and will take a look at him first. He'll be out of their picture by January at the latest... And I'm sure United would sell for about £15m. Other clubs would drive the price up.



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Dan_Bristol

Dan_Bristol

Grenville Morris
Ashley said:
Even if an option to buy is included, I'd imagine United would be paying a portion of his wages for this season anyway.
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correct, my point being, if we had a compulsary purchase, then we'd have to agree to a wage close to that somehow. His current deals has 3 seasons left I believe. Imagine everyone else on a fraction and GK as top earner.
 
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Grenville Morris
Statto said:
Personally, I'd just ask Man U what they want for Garner and pay it.

He's a great lad, been around the place for a couple of years, fits in well here and is only 21 years old and only going to get better.
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But theres another credible scenario and that's that ManUre don't particularly want to sell Garner...as has been said elsewhere they don't give a shit about anyone else. If that's true its all whistling in the wind and the only thing you can do then is put in an outrageous bid (probably in the region of 25-30) that appeals to their greed....
 
Ashley

Ashley

Steve Chettle
Dan_Bristol said:
correct, my point being, if we had a compulsary purchase, then we'd have to agree to a wage close to that somehow. His current deals has 3 seasons left I believe. Imagine everyone else on a fraction and GK as top earner.
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If it was an obligation to buy your probably right, but what is being mentioned in the press is an option to buy. So there is a possibility that we'd only be paying a portion of his wage for the initial loan period.
 
Any Time Now

Any Time Now

Grenville Morris
shearstone said:
Buy Garner with something like a £20mil buy back clause and take Hendo without the option
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Probably one of the only ways to get around the loan issue, if they sold him to us for 15 mil with a 20 mil buy back clause it would essentially be no different to a loan. Pays back his wages + a little bit on top for further developing their player
 
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Grenville Morris
Ashley said:
If it was an obligation to buy your probably right, but what is being mentioned in the press is an option to buy. So there is a possibility that we'd only be paying a portion of his wage for the initial loan period.
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I think this is the only credible explanation for the plan. If his wages weren't crazy I think we'd pay the 20M straight up....
 
Rzar

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
I will be a bit disapointed if it just a straight loan. Quality player no dispute, but feels like we should be building something. That would be my only gripe. It's a bit kick the can down the road, although if it does become an issue in the future it would have probably meant we have stayed up which is only a good thing.
 
Mr RayReardon

Mr RayReardon

Jack Burkitt
Dan_Bristol said:
Micah Richards was on £50k at 19, that was 15 years ago. - Money has gone crazy!
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He was dogshit as well! My mate's a Villa fan. No injuries, took 80k a week and played twice in three seasons. Must have cost Villa about £20m in wages! Makes our profligacy seem tame

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DapperDan

DapperDan

Steve Chettle
Rzarecteh said:
I will be a bit disapointed if it just a straight loan. Quality player no dispute, but feels like we should be building something. That would be my only gripe. It's a bit kick the can down the road, although if it does become an issue in the future it would have probably meant we have stayed up which is only a good thing.
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It potentially leaves £20m free to strengthen elsewhere if we don't have to put that aside for the future transfer.
 
Mr RayReardon

Mr RayReardon

Jack Burkitt
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But theres another credible scenario and that's that ManUre don't particularly want to sell Garner...as has been said elsewhere they don't give a shit about anyone else. If that's true its all whistling in the wind and the only thing you can do then is put in an outrageous bid (probably in the region of 25-30) that appeals to their greed....
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Well, that was from me, and not based on any Twattering.. rather just basic logic.

I could be wrong, but there's no reason to think United would give two shits about doing right by anyone other than themselves.

1) They don't need the money
2) They wouldn't care too much about an unhappy player lower down the echelons with zero dressing room influence
3) Selling, without taking a good look, would only piss off fans who know he had a good year.

Zero incentive to sell. They'll keep him and take their own sweet time having a look. Even if they don't want him, just as likely to loan and have one final viewing next summer than they are to buy.


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