Coops fined for ref comments

[oxonred]

Steve Cooper has been fined £8000 for his comments about the useless ref after the Wolves game.

I think managers should refuse to speak directly after the game, as they keep getting punished for telling the truth.

Hardly any punishment for bad refs.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

I think managers should refuse to speak directly after the game, as they keep getting punished for telling the truth.

#mediaban

 

[DanR]

#mediaban

He could give his opinions on the referee before the game takes place. Via video, obviously.

 

[Captain Sinister]

Is there no justice?
SC should appeal and play a video of the wrong decision, the missed fouls, and the sheer biased way that ref ran the Wolves game.
No one could convict on that evidence.

 

[Notcher]

Should have called him a **** and made the £8k fine worthwhile

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[Bonfy177]

Go fund me ?

Pay it for him?

 

[Captain Sinister]

Go fund me ?

Pay it for him?

With him on at least a couple of million quid I doubt he will notice the £8k.
It'd be like taking coals to Newcastle, me owd duck.

 

[Bonfy177]

With him on at least a couple of million quid I doubt he will notice the £8k.
It'd be like taking coals to Newcastle, me owd duck.

Agreed fully Captain,

more to cock a snook at the twats who fined him,

there’ll be a lot more said for a lot less reason by others who bitch for a living and they’ll get away with it.

800 @ £10 each ( fully understand with the financial issues £10 might be a stretch for many )

 

[eyupmeduck]

Well isn't that lovely, his comments weren't even that bad imho but if they cost him £8k then I must owe them in the region of £6.8m just for the games where Keith Stroud reffed us.

Hopefully Luke Jepson of the Huddersfield X-files infamy is still in hiding because his criticism of the new Earl of Ruddington John Moss was far less nuanced so he could be getting a hefty bill soon!

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[MaxiRobriguez]

Well isn't that lovely, his comments weren't even that bad imho but if they cost him £8k then I must owe them in the region of £6.8m just for the games where Keith Stroud reffed us.

Weirdly that's the same sum as Stroud took as a bribe in our 2-2 WBA game.

 

[Finding Remo]

Strange setup where you are fined for speaking out against those in authority. They choose to be a ref, they should be allowed to be criticised the oversensitive pansies.

Also do you think his dad fines him when they have a disagreement...?

"You've put sugar in my tea Dad"
"Right that's an 8 grand fine!"
"Ok well got any Hob Nobs?"
"Only Bourbons"
"Oh I don't like those"
"8 Grand!"

 

[Strummer]

£8k? The fine is £8k?

For that money, I would have gone and chinned the c***

 

[Timothy Pope]

£8k is what the referee should be fined for his ineptitude

 

[Chappers85]

Not surprised to be honest. Cooper is usually better at walking the line when it comes to comments about referees. I think if you question the decisions (and frame it as your opinion) then the FA can do very little. But when you question their competence, which is what Cooper did - even insinuating he wasn't good enough to be refereeing a Premier League game - then you're gonna get hit with a fine or ban. Although it does infuriate me when they say 'bringing the game into disrepute' when the incompetence of officials does that anyway. Oh well, at least it wasn't a touchline ban.

 

[Notcher]

Not surprised to be honest. Cooper is usually better at walking the line when it comes to comments about referees. I think if you question the decisions (and frame it as your opinion) then the FA can do very little. But when you question their competence, which is what Cooper did - even insinuating he wasn't good enough to be refereeing a Premier League game - then you're gonna get hit with a fine or ban. Although it does infuriate me when they say 'bringing the game into disrepute' when the incompetence of officials does that anyway. Oh well, at least it wasn't a touchline ban.

About 3 years ago whilst I was managing my son's U'12s team there was a loon on the opposing side running about clumping lads on the back of the head. At half time I asked the ref why he hadn't done anything at all as it was a safeguarding issue (not even a free kick or word with the player) all I did was ask that question, not in an aggressive manner, more inquisitive. He promptly sent me off, I received a 3 match ban and £100 fine.

I appealled the decision and even had eye witness statements from the parent of the child who was appalled at his sons behaviour and also a scout who was watching who said he would testify on my behalf. I took it all the way and finally ended up with a 5 match ban and £500 fine.

They all piss in each others pockets and virtually every single person I've come across at the FA is an absolute arsehole full of their own self importance.

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[Otis Redding]

Funnily enough, Steve's old man, Keith, a FIFA-level referee in his day, was overheard offering a few choice opinions towards the officials from his seat at the last home game, his first one back after his illness. Not abuse I'm assured, but certainly clear disagreement with some decisions.

 

[Omar Devone Little]

Cooper knows the rules. You criticise the ref then you get fined, quite simple. No sympathy here.

Public criticism of refs is actually one of my pet hates in the game and to be honest I'm disappointed in Cooper as I've never heard him do it before and I thought he was a bit better than that.

I've always considered it a weak cop-out by fans and managers to highlight ref's decisions as a reason for a loss, hoping it distracts from their own failings.

 

[Otis Redding]

Cooper knows the rules. You criticise the ref then you get fined, quite simple. No sympathy here.

Public criticism of refs is actually one of my pet hates in the game and to be honest I'm disappointed in Cooper as I've never heard him do it before and I thought he was a bit better than that.

I've always considered it a weak cop-out by fans and managers to highlight ref's decisions as a reason for a loss, hoping it distracts from their own failings.

I dare say that Steve isn't expecting any sympathy, but pointing-out that the referee made hugely debateable decisions that had a direct impact on the potential result isn't unreasonable. It's not as if he didn't criticise the team as well.

 

[Omar Devone Little]

I dare say that Steve isn't expecting any sympathy, but pointing-out that the referee made hugely debateable decisions that had a direct impact on the potential result isn't unreasonable. It's not as if he didn't criticise the team as well.

I feel sorry for managers and players in a sense as livelihoods are on the line at times and a ref could have a shocker and you have a camera shoved in your face minutes after the final whistle and questions being asked with the sole purpose of provoking an answer about what they can't talk about...

But they know the rules, they're pretty straightforward.

 

[Otis Redding]

I feel sorry for managers and players in a sense as livelihoods are on the line at times and a ref could have a shocker and you have a camera shoved in your face minutes after the final whistle and questions being asked with the sole purpose of provoking an answer about what they can't talk about...

But they know the rules, they're pretty straightforward.

Fair point.

 

[PynchonForest]

This notion that refs don't get punished for poor performance is misguided. In fact, it's flat out wrong. Having said that, there needs to be an acknowledgement that there are a limited number of referees who can perform adequately at the top level. IF they suspend refs for being mediocre, we'd be dealing with the guys a level down and if you think the guys at the top level are poor, just remember some of the guys we have seen in the Champo that don't ref in the Prem--they are most definitely worse. Reffing in England is very difficult, the pace and physicality of the leagues make it tough to perform really well. From my perspective, as a long time referee, it's an almost unfixable problem. And I do sympathize with Coops here. That reffing performance was poor. And I can guarantee the assessor was less than kind in his most match meeting with said referee. The only reason Cooper (or any manager) offers negative comments after the match is to a) deflect from a poor team performance and b) play to the fan base. Such is life.

 

[Thomas]

f*** dem refs all my homies hate refs


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[Otis Redding]

I do see the point in sanctions for criticising professional referees, particularly in view of the shameful abuse and violence that many receive at local park-level, and worse still from moronic, overbearing fathers of kids in junior football.

However, there's a significant difference between the aggressive, Warnock-style rants and the milder, more frustration-driven comments for which Steve was fined.

 

[lavelleuk]

What mistakes did the ref make? I can't remember watching the match and thinking there was anything particularly bad about it, but I might just be forgetting

 

[Barry]

Some Journo did some research on managers getting fines for comments made and the results they got the next time that ref reffed their game in the PL.

The jist was they'd deny the fine, ask for a personal hearing, the ref would also have to attend and you could tear into the ref at the hearing, again this time with a well versed club official.

Wenger, Jose and Fergie all had a 100% records in the next few game with that ref. I'd love to dig it out for proof but I dont recall what book it was in. The book even hinted at an indirect off the record quote by one of them which I think was Jose, saying the fine would be worth it as the club would pay as they knew the nett result of the appeal which could be the difference between winning the league or not

A similar thing was also mentioned on a football podcast as well I listened to back when I used to drive, again can't remember the source.

Who knows?

I dont recall the wolves ref being that bad though, not as bad as our own performance. The Liverpool ref was worse, gave them everything.

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