Brice Lauriche Samba - „Magic Hands“

[Forest ash]

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We are not getting a better keeper anytime soon, if there is a problem it's that he has lost confidence in those in front of him, the back four and the DF position are where the problem lies. As has been said before in this thread when he had a back four he could rely on we saw the best of him

I saw him when Charlton came to the CG last season. He was almost laughing at his clearances getting caught in the wind and coming back to him, inviting needless pressure after needless pressure. He had a smile on his face the whole time

It was seriously bizarre

He would try and just dink it over to the touch line for a fullback, already under pressure. It was absolutely needless behaviour

But I do agree we won’t get anything much better if at all.

And yea again your right about the confidence in the men in front of him. But still he’s a flapper and one of these type of keepers who loves to parry and push/punch the ball away, never like to use his feet or catch it.

For me I don’t like that sort of gk. All imo

 

[jervine]

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Shall we remove “magic hands” from the title, I feel we’ve jinxed him

Should ask a mod to replace M with Tr I think....

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[Barry]

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Wasn't he voted by players as the best keeper in the league?

Yes but that's not important right now

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[Carlos]

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Yes but that's not important right now

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Ah it's one of those debates is it mate?

Just thought it might be worth a reminder that happened and maybe instead of turning in the players like a pack of dogs, appreciate he's playing in a side that are playing some of their worst football.

 

[Danga]

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I saw him when Charlton came to the CG last season. He was almost laughing at his clearances getting caught in the wind and coming back to him, inviting needless pressure after needless pressure. He had a smile on his face the whole time

It was seriously bizarre

He would try and just dink it over to the touch line for a fullback, already under pressure. It was absolutely needless behaviour

But I do agree we won’t get anything much better if at all.

And yea again your right about the confidence in the men in front of him. But still he’s a flapper and one of these type of keepers who loves to parry and push/punch the ball away, never like to use his feet or catch it.

For me I don’t like that sort of gk. All imo

I really don't get any of this. You have a problem with him finding it amusing the wind was making his kicks bad? Was he supposed to get mad at the wind? So then he tries to play it shorter to the guys in space and then you are mad at him for that? What was he meant to do that day then? Not kick it at all?

And how is he a flapper? He literally came out and punched/cleared nearly every cross yesterday. He got done because Taylor didn't do his job in easing the attacker out of the way. He got completely blindsided. If you want to be critical you could say he should have come for the ball, but when there is nothing in front of you and the ball is coming it to your hands, the keeper never steps forward to claim it.

Is he perfect? No. But Samba is far far far down the list of positions I am worried about moving forward.

 

[Haych]

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Brice ain’t shit but we probably over rated him last season.

He’s always been abit flappy but he ain’t the reason we’re in the shit this season, and because of that he’s low on the list of people who need replacing.

 

[Forest ash]

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I didn’t watch yesterday’s game so I can’t comment regarding that.

In regards to him as I have said he’s not in the top list of issues on the playing staff side of things but going forward if we are actually to get out of this league, for me he isn’t good enough


In regards to his distribution in the game I spoke of he’s supposed to kick that f***ing ball far away from our goal and ease the pressure

Not look like he’s actually getting kicks out of inviting heavy pressing on to his penalty area. Then going over to the sidelines which he had no business(in the air I might add with the crazy wind that evening) when the press was so high from Charlton it was plain stupid.

It was f***ing bitter and windy in there that night. His body language along with others was screaming they didn’t wanna be out there.

The crowd was in his and the whole teams back but yet Samba, smiling away just kept making the same mistake over and over

 

[Carlos]

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I think it's refreshing to see a footballer smiling and enjoying himself, Ronaldinho was always smiling, he weren't a bad player.


I'd be f***ing smiling too if I was on 30k a week.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

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Ah it's one of those debates is it mate?

Just thought it might be worth a reminder that happened and maybe instead of turning in the players like a pack of dogs, appreciate he's playing in a side that are playing some of their worst football.

That's my point in bumping the thread. He's coming in for some grief on other social media, and it's a bit unfair as he was never that good to start with.

Another victim of "all we sign are amazing players". He's a decent enough keeper at this level, but benefitted massively from the defensive strength of the players in front of him, and faced far less tricky situations.

Basically, when Brice looks like a top keeper again, that's when the defensive issues have been addressed.

But some likened him to Beasant level quality last year, and he's nowhere near that IMO. And folk shouldn't expect him to be.

 

[Carlos]

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That's my point in bumping the thread. He's coming in for some grief on other social media, and it's a bit unfair as he was never that good to start with.

Another victim of "all we sign are amazing players". He's a decent enough keeper at this level, but benefitted massively from the defensive strength of the players in front of him, and faced far less tricky situations.

Basically, when Brice looks like a top keeper again, that's when the defensive issues have been addressed.

But some likened him to Beasant level quality last year, and he's nowhere near that IMO.

But his peers who work with him and play against him say that he is the best keeper in the league?

Even Buffon would let some in with this side, he'd occasionally make a mistake too trying to cover for others and desperately trying not to concede yet another goal.

Don't forget Brice is relatively young for a keeper too.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

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But his peers who work with him and play against him say that he is the best keeper in the league?

Even Buffon would let some in with this side, he'd occasionally make a mistake too trying to cover for others and desperately trying not to concede yet another goal.

Don't forget Brice is relatively young for a keeper too.

Did his peers take into account the defesive strength of the team in front of him, or did they just say the usual soundbytes for a fluff award? :dunno:

Regards age, I definitely think he'll improve, and in a season or two may be as good as Beasant. I just don't think he's there yet, and the sooner the defence is sorted the better for him.

 

[Carlos]

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Did his peers take into account the defesive strength of the team in front of him, or did they just say the usual soundbytes for a fluff award? :dunno:

Regards age, I definitely think he'll improve, and in a season or two may be as good as Beasant. I just don't think he's there yet, and the sooner the defence is sorted the better for him.

He's far from the finishes article, but he's clearly regarded by people in his line of work as more than good enough for a 2nd tier side.

A lot are trying to find players to blame, I don't think anyone on the pitch should be blamed for the absolute shit show of a club they play for.

 

[Rob1965]

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I’ve said it before but if we were 15 points clear at the top of the league there would still be a sizeable group of our supposed fans looking for someone to tear apart.

 

[Carlos]

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I’ve said it before but if we were 15 points clear at the top of the league there would still be a sizeable group of our supposed fans looking for someone to tear apart.

I think it would still be Yates

 

[Erik]

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I’ve said it before but if we were 15 points clear at the top of the league there would still be a sizeable group of our supposed fans looking for someone to tear apart.

I think it would still be Yates

That's because we'll never get 20 points clear at the top with Yates in the side. He's not good enough.

 

[Carlos]

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That's because we'll never get 20 points clear at the top with Yates in the side. He's not good enough.

Someone would find a way to pick at David Silva if he was at forest. I wonder if city had a fan with a clicker?

 

[BryanRoy22]

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I’ve said it before but if we were 15 points clear at the top of the league there would still be a sizeable group of our supposed fans looking for someone to tear apart.

Managers usually get stick when the team is doing well. 'Is he achieving enough? Shouldn't he be doing better?'

When the team is doing badly, the players and manager get it.

 

[Matt]

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I think he has occasional lapses of concentration in key moments, but I think generally he is a top 6 goalkeeper in this division apart from his incredible lack of ability to play the mind games at penalties. His shot stopping is unreal, his command of his area is generally excellent, his distribution is good when he has willing runners to aim at and he clearly loves the club.

If we’re being honest, the mistake yesterday was on Samba, Yates and whoever was supposed to be tracking the back post run. Samba has to think that one of his defenders will be running behind him to make sure he doesn’t get done over - he absolutely should have been more aggressive and claimed the ball, but we’ve seen him do this over and over again at free kicks and collect balls easily.

Re the comment about him smiling too much. Lol. Keepers HAVE to be able to recover fast from mistakes and play with positivity and aggression or they very quickly lose their game.

 

[Otis Redding]

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Managers usually get stick when the team is doing well. 'Is he achieving enough? Shouldn't he be doing better?

To prove your point Bryan, Lamouchi was certainly a target for criticism from the usial section when we were riding high last season .

 

[Dirk Furtull]

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Bit harsh criticising Samba, yeah it was a poor attempt at catching the ball for the first goal but the rest of the shower weren't great either.
As for smiling, he's clearly a character and that's something I applaud, as we know it's all about entertainment isn't it.

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[Red Rooster]

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Wasn't he voted by players as the best keeper in the league?

they were taking the piss, like saying Benny from Crossroads looks a bit like Brad Pitt

 

[Abdooonk]

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Bit harsh criticising Samba, yeah it was a poor attempt at catching the ball for the first goal but the rest of the shower weren't great either.
As for smiling, he's clearly a character and that's something I applaud, as we know it's all about entertainment isn't it.

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Yes,you need your goalkeeper to be a bit of a laugh. Catching crosses and making saves is of minor importance.

 

[Carlos]

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Yes,you need your goalkeeper to be a bit of a laugh. Catching crosses and making saves is of minor importance.

So you aren't keen on him then?

 

[Abdooonk]

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I never understood the adulation for him. There have been very few games where he has made a string of fantastic saves. He's ok but was never any better than that. It was a horrific mistake yesterday. Worse than anything Pantillimon did. He was just ok as well but the fanbase decided Samba was the best in the league and Pantillimon was shit.

 

[Carlos]

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I never understood the adulation for him. There have been very few games where he has made a string of fantastic saves. He's ok but was never any better than that. It was a horrific mistake yesterday. Worse than anything Pantillimon did. He was just ok as well but the fanbase decided Samba was the best in the league and Pantillimon was shit.

Those few games led to forests highest position in a decade?