Dr Sheldon Cooper
Grenville Morris
Villa fan at work "we're going to bid £33M"
"That'll get a f*** off"
"Will it though"
"Yes, underlined and in bold"
"That'll get a f*** off"
"Will it though"
"Yes, underlined and in bold"
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Brennan Price Johnson
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Redemption
One less gobshite...
Fitzcarraldo
Ian Storey-Moore
Not sure where the truth is in any of this but I am confident his wages will increase before the new season starts.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
Probably. This could just as easily be about him angling for a new contract as it could be about securing a move away.
Collymore!
Grenville Morris
Brennan will be aiming for a top four club, he shouldn’t mess around with mid-table teams. One or two seasons here performing well and he’ll be at the very top.
Do other clubs think EM needs money!?! And Forest are fine from an FFP POV, at least in the short term.
Brennan’s gonna be worth double/triple this, if he isn’t already.
Do other clubs think EM needs money!?! And Forest are fine from an FFP POV, at least in the short term.
Brennan’s gonna be worth double/triple this, if he isn’t already.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
Not saying we will command a similar fee, but Brennan Johnson should take a leaf out of Jack Grealish's book here IMO; have a couple of good seasons with your hometown club and help establish them in the Premier League, and then leave to a top club in a mutually beneficial move that earns good money for the club you are leaving behind and gives him a chance of winning silverware and playing in Europe.
Controversial take, but I reckon it’s quite difficult at the minute to predict what his ceiling is going to be. I personally thought MGW showed a different level of class by seasons end.
And I’m not saying that to be critical of Brennan before anyone piles in
However, I’m not sure we’ve seen an 80mil player in him....yet....
So I would view this as a difficult decision IF a team came offering 45/50mil.
But in an ideal world I would not be selling anyone of his stature and influence in the squad this summer.
And I’m not saying that to be critical of Brennan before anyone piles in
However, I’m not sure we’ve seen an 80mil player in him....yet....
So I would view this as a difficult decision IF a team came offering 45/50mil.
But in an ideal world I would not be selling anyone of his stature and influence in the squad this summer.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
£55-60m for me if he goes this summer, simply because he'd be a very difficult (and expensive) player to replace in the upcoming window.Controversial take, but I reckon it’s quite difficult at the minute to predict what his ceiling is going to be. I personally thought MGW showed a different level of class by seasons end.
And I’m not saying that to be critical of Brennan before anyone piles in
However, I’m not sure we’ve seen an 80mil player in him....yet....
So I would view this as a difficult decision IF a team came offering 45/50mil.
But in an ideal world I would not be selling anyone of his stature and influence in the squad this summer.
Project Zeus
Steve Chettle
This is a real test of the club's ambition. If we start getting bids in the £50m+ region, I think we'll struggle to turn them down, but that has to be weighed against the blow it would be to sell our crown jewel so soon into our PL return.
I think he'll leave in the next three seasons, but hope it would not be for another year at least, and when he does it will be to a top 6 team with Forest fully established in the top division.
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I think he'll leave in the next three seasons, but hope it would not be for another year at least, and when he does it will be to a top 6 team with Forest fully established in the top division.
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Dr Sheldon Cooper
Grenville Morris
Funnily enough I used Grealish as the example why we wouldn't accept a dross offer like £33M.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
It's tough with Brennan. He's obviously a very talented boy with traits which are extremely hard to teach: pace, first time finishing, traits that are very valuable. So I don't think it's unreasonable Forest ask £50m+ for him. That's just the way the PL is now, stupid money. He's got more in his locker in terms of impact on games than Anthony Gordon does who went for £40m+£5m in add-ons for example, so personally I'd be saying £50m + £25m in various add-ons. It's a lot yes, but his ceiling is huge.
And frankly there's not much point in letting him go for much less than that because he's a very difficult player to replace. Forest might even have to think about completely changing their tactical set-up and moving away from pure direct-counter attacking because the only other player we have with pace that can carry the ball in advanced areas is Awoniyi, and he doesn't do it like Brennan does. So we get £50m, we probably need 3 or 4 players in to replace him to give us balance, that £50m is going to be immediately gobbled up by that and no guarantee the impact of those 3 or 4 players is the same as what Brennan brings.
Perhaps the biggest impact here is whether Brennan wants to move. If he does, regardless of whether it's to Brentford or someone else, then it's probably wise to get as much money for him as possible because Cooper gets that additional 10% from a squad who are united and want to be here. If Brennan is open to staying then maybe we don't even accept bids of £50m, maybe it takes £70m, or £80m - figures which are starting to be ridiculous that we just can't reject.
And frankly there's not much point in letting him go for much less than that because he's a very difficult player to replace. Forest might even have to think about completely changing their tactical set-up and moving away from pure direct-counter attacking because the only other player we have with pace that can carry the ball in advanced areas is Awoniyi, and he doesn't do it like Brennan does. So we get £50m, we probably need 3 or 4 players in to replace him to give us balance, that £50m is going to be immediately gobbled up by that and no guarantee the impact of those 3 or 4 players is the same as what Brennan brings.
Perhaps the biggest impact here is whether Brennan wants to move. If he does, regardless of whether it's to Brentford or someone else, then it's probably wise to get as much money for him as possible because Cooper gets that additional 10% from a squad who are united and want to be here. If Brennan is open to staying then maybe we don't even accept bids of £50m, maybe it takes £70m, or £80m - figures which are starting to be ridiculous that we just can't reject.
thehockleyhustler
Stuart Pearce
Got to be very careful with any bid we receive.
Leeds sold their crown jewels last season and look at them now. Money from transfer fees can easily be wasted.
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Leeds sold their crown jewels last season and look at them now. Money from transfer fees can easily be wasted.
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Ashley
Steve Chettle
Leicester have been doing it for a while too. Eventually caught up with them.
Of course there will be times when we need to sell, but the timing needs to be right and appropriate replacements need to be lined up. Personally, I think it is at least a year too early to consider selling him.
Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
Wondering if this bid tells us anything about a release clause? i.e. that one doesn't exist, or that it does but it's above £30m?
blue_eyes777
Viv Anderson
BJ is the PL's fastest forward according to this:
Pace isn't everything but our Brennan is a fantastic first time finisher too.
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Pace isn't everything but our Brennan is a fantastic first time finisher too.
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Dr Sheldon Cooper
Grenville Morris
Once a player wants to leave they're as good as gone and every player has their price. I know its snobbish but I just can't see his head being turned by Brentford. We accepted Djed going to Tottenham because it ws his desire to play for them, does anyone hold a deep seated desire to play for Brentford?
Ashley
Steve Chettle
Even amongst the clubs currently linked with him, Aston Villa and West Ham (bigger clubs that pay higher wages and have European football) are far more attractive prospects than Brentford (with all due respect to them). I just don't see why he'd be interested in what is a sideways move at best to a smaller club.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Quite a bit of paranoia in this thread - I dread to think what happens when a proper club/fee comes knocking.
BJ knows which side his bread is buttered, and unless a top 5 club come in (they won't yet at a price we'd accept imo) he'll be here next year. Whether that's his last remains to be seen - if he progresses at the same rate we'll quickly lose him.
BJ knows which side his bread is buttered, and unless a top 5 club come in (they won't yet at a price we'd accept imo) he'll be here next year. Whether that's his last remains to be seen - if he progresses at the same rate we'll quickly lose him.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
I think Brennan wouldn't mind playing for Brentford tbh. Mid-table PL team now who play on the counter, might push Europe next year and gives him another platform to demonstrate he belongs at this level not just at Forest.
But I suspect he'd rather go straight to a Villa, Spurs or Man Utd - and he might get those clubs interested.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
If they lose Raya and with Toney's suspension, I don't see it myself. They probably won't get relegated or anything like that, but I think a bottom half finish is more than likely on the cards IMO.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Maybe but you ask most neutrals they'll say Brentford will finish above Forest this season, and most of this Forum are wanting us to finish mid-table.
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
He’s in a catch 22 I think. To improve he needs to be playing regularly in a better team who attack more than we did last season (this could still be us btw). But the higher up he moves the less likely he will get the game time he needs. So for next season he is probably better going to the level of club being talked about. But then it gets kind of silly because they aren’t that much above us in reality. I still think he’d be better here for another season.
PynchonForest
John Robertson
I am actually amazed that most of you see Brennan as someone we should sell, particularly to sides that aren't among the huge clubs in England. Some wants to offer 100 million, fine. Otherwise he is an unsellable asset, imho. If we can get into Europe in the coming seasons we will need to keep our homegrown assets or we will be f**ked. And I don't hear of any gems coming up through the youth ranks right now. To sell him for 50 million would be ludicrous.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
I think most neutrals don't really know the ins and outs of either club TBH.
We don't know what next season holds in store for us yet. We do know that Brentford are going to be without at least one of their best players (a 20 goal striker) next season, and possibly another.
I don't know who will finish higher out of us and Brentford, but I'd be surprised if Brentford matched this seasons achievements. I'd certainly say lower midtable is more likely than them pushing for Europe, as I would say that of any midtable side that faces losing one or two of its key players.