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youreds1986
Geoff Thomas
It's all well and good 'warning' them that he's a Luton fan.
They already know that. And they clearly decided that it wasn't against their rules or policies for that to result in removing him from the game.
So this will go absolutely nowhere. Other than us looking like a bunch of f***ing mugs. Again.
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
The problem is there's a massive difference evidentially between proving that the PGMOL knowingly appointed a Luton fan as the VAR and proving that the PGMOL knowingly appointed a Luton fan as the VAR and that for that reason he deliberately didn't give us decisions he should have done
Knowingly appointing a Luton fan as the VAR for a game Luton aren't playing in doesn't breach any rules AFAIK
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
To be fair I don’t have much hope the club have thought this through.
There is more chance of Forest getting done for bringing the game into disrepute, than there is of any chance what so ever of actions being taken against officials, or of the standard of officials actually „improving“.
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
Well, if the game actually is disreputable, which i’m not sure many on here would deny….
However, I can see people’s point that all this is massively self-defeating. Today marked the day I gave up on getting a fair crack of the whip this season though.
DizzyBala
Jack Armstrong
That is pretty much what will happen and everyone that is a natural will look at what we've done with that tweet and think it's embarrassing. What are we expecting exactly? They aren't going to overturn the result.
I doubt Forest would have said anything if we'd won the game either, but it's trying to find excuses again.
Football, and the Premier League in particular is at a tipping point - the feelings of a cartel, that the PL is protecting certain clubs, big 6 bias and all that - those calls are louder than I've ever heard them.
The current setup is not sustainable.
It could be that this is the push that's needed to collapse the whole house of cards.
The current setup is not sustainable.
It could be that this is the push that's needed to collapse the whole house of cards.
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
Precisely
Seen a few people backing the Tweet and saying "bring it on" etc, but the only thing that's likely to happen is some kind of sanction against the club
Not to mention the fallout in terms of goodwill amongst the neutral fan and the public toward the club generally
Forest have massively shot themselves in the foot (yet again) with that idiotic Tweet
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
Or it could be that it changes absolutely nothing, brings sanctions against the club and makes us look like a pathetic bunch of sore losers
I know which my money would be on
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
What good will though? We continuously get these decisions against us
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
Not sure why this was in bold btw. Maybe I’m being too passive aggressive
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
I meant amongst neutral fans
I love Forest and I hate the way shit like this is turning us into one of the least likeable clubs in football
vertigored
First Team Squad
Hearing the audio of the var decision will be interesting then-
nope young didn’t touch him
nope it didnt hit youngs arm
nope, he definitely got the ball first there, this ref has seen everything perfectly…
ozthecoz
Geoff Thomas
What Goodwill is that ?
The goodwill to ignore 3, possibly 4 penalty shouts?
The good will to send a player off when he was nowhere bear a foul ?
The good will to dock us 4 points but ignore 7 million of Evertons spend and deal with it next year
There is no goodwill from the league and there never has been
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
As I mentioned to GOBIAS I was referring to the neutral fan and the public, rather than the league
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
I suspect this is what will happen so totally respect this view.
The question is, do you think we have a point or not?
If not, fair enough. But if we do have a point, and the reffing is inept at best, corrupt at worst, are you happy to just carry on under those terms? Because I’m fast losing interest in being involved.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Without reading through this or the matchday thread, so apologies for what might be repetition, the third one highlights all of the issues with var for me...
The ref I assume was miles away - he had to be not to give it - and when he doesn't blow it goes to var which assume he's done his job correctly, so they look for what can be deemed a clear and obvious error, and because it says the ref was wrong they don't give it.
Someone (I know who) will be along to tell me it wasn't a pen, or probably already has, but when the ball is ahead of the attacker who is ahead of the defender that can only mean one thing if there's contact, which there was. Blatant penalty.
And the first claim highlights the same issue as in real time it was difficult to tell whether there is a poor touch/pass from Reyna though the replay shows the tackle from behind moved the player onto hitting the ball. Understand why the ref hasn't given it but the var should see that there's been sufficient contact - at that point let the red take a look. It's crazy - they've designed a system that, conspiracy aside, doesn't work.
And yet they keep it this way because it's better than the truth...
All three today are given to a top six side, the last one is given to everyone but us. Today. Because *****.
The ref I assume was miles away - he had to be not to give it - and when he doesn't blow it goes to var which assume he's done his job correctly, so they look for what can be deemed a clear and obvious error, and because it says the ref was wrong they don't give it.
Someone (I know who) will be along to tell me it wasn't a pen, or probably already has, but when the ball is ahead of the attacker who is ahead of the defender that can only mean one thing if there's contact, which there was. Blatant penalty.
And the first claim highlights the same issue as in real time it was difficult to tell whether there is a poor touch/pass from Reyna though the replay shows the tackle from behind moved the player onto hitting the ball. Understand why the ref hasn't given it but the var should see that there's been sufficient contact - at that point let the red take a look. It's crazy - they've designed a system that, conspiracy aside, doesn't work.
And yet they keep it this way because it's better than the truth...
All three today are given to a top six side, the last one is given to everyone but us. Today. Because *****.
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
Yeah I dunno, a neutral watching MOTD later will probably think “that’s a daft thing for the club to do, but they have been stitched there today at least.”
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
I think the club have a point, yes
But there are ways of going about things and posting an arsey Tweet immediately after losing a match is not the right way for the club to go about acting on its grievances, IMO
Sometimes discretion is the better part of valour and this was one of those times
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Called it at the time we appointed him. Shitshow!
Redemption
One less gobshite...
Official account tweeting like a fan account is a bit silly imho. But I've never been into this side of Marinakis emotional model.
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
It’s certainly divisive I’ll give you that
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
Yeah fair enough. I’m torn. Part of me thinks it needs to be called out. Unfortunately it is either lay down and take it or lash out. I’m past caring as it is so blatant.
But in general I have always been a sporting kind of guy when playing or watching sport. It’s not against Everton or any of the clubs we play. But the PGMOL are totally ruining the game and their constant bad decisions are ruining the game and relegating us just as much as our own ineptitude
Red Echo
Youth Team
My interest in the sport has been tested quite a bit in recent years, I must admit, but my love of Forest always brings me back.
VAR is obviously the tipping point that you speak of. I can't forgive them for taking a lot of the spontaneous joy of the game away, but if the trade off is that decisions are always correct, I can just about accept it.
If the joy is taken away AND incorrect decisions are still the main talking point every week, it can be quite challenging to stay enthused. I just want to watch a pure game of football again.