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Of course. Surely you're not disputing that both were clear cut chances, or are you?Which one are you counting, Elanga's?
Of course. Surely you're not disputing that both were clear cut chances, or are you?Which one are you counting, Elanga's?
I think this is why people talk about conspiracies, its virtually impossible to arrive at that conclusion.Refs are going to make mistakes, as we all do. In my business, if I am not sure of a big decision I’ll ask someone higher, or we have processes were things are checked by others to ensure decisions are correct. A few years ago linemen were ‘up graded’ to be ‘Assistant Referees’ so basically nowadays we have 3 people who are qualified referees, plus a 4th official but not sure if they have say in decisions (but they did years ago when we played Brum away!) I appreciate that due to mics and ear pieces refs don’t have to physically walk up to assistant refs to have a discussion. But surely one of these 2 Assistent Referees, must have questioned the decision to give the ball back to Liverpool. Surely all 3 refs with all the crowd abuse and from the forest sub bench, couldn’t all have all thought it was the right decision. It’s Common sense for refs to take a sec and talk to assistant refs-surely.
So it’s either ref is making a decision on his own without consulting or ignoring assistant refs advice. Or discussions took place and all 3 got it wrong-either way totally unacceptable for this level.
To achieve what?Haha 6 points for me 1 win 3 draws..
1st one would have been given offside.Of course. Surely you're not disputing that both were clear cut chances, or are you?
It's not exactly hard to believe. It was going on in Italy for years, and quite possibly still is.I think this is why people talk about conspiracies, its virtually impossible to arrive at that conclusion.
Its worrying, it really is, its week in week out too, and then when it goes to VAR they often get it wrong. Why is this?
Watching Utd v City right now and you just know full well there wont be anything like mentioned above.
Im genuinley starting to think these 'mistakes' are not actually mistakes, and im watching a scripted soap opera of some kind.
Yeah, really hammers home the error yesterday. Imagine if Madley had given that ball back to the keeper ?!!Andy Madley just applied the rules correctly. Something that should’ve happened yesterday,
Mike Dean, the man whose presence on Soccer Saturday is purely just to publicly defend referreing decisions that 95% of which are a) wrong, and b) benefit the top clubs?Mike dean just now on sky “it’s a monumental error thats cost Forest the game“ no shit Mike!
They're arrogant bastards, there are some refs who clearly instruct their assistants to only flag for throw ins, some of the pricks don't even seem to give up that power.Refs are going to make mistakes, as we all do. In my business, if I am not sure of a big decision I’ll ask someone higher, or we have processes were things are checked by others to ensure decisions are correct. A few years ago linemen were ‘up graded’ to be ‘Assistant Referees’ so basically nowadays we have 3 people who are qualified referees, plus a 4th official but not sure if they have say in decisions (but they did years ago when we played Brum away!) I appreciate that due to mics and ear pieces refs don’t have to physically walk up to assistant refs to have a discussion. But surely one of these 2 Assistent Referees, must have questioned the decision to give the ball back to Liverpool. Surely all 3 refs with all the crowd abuse and from the forest sub bench, couldn’t all have all thought it was the right decision. It’s Common sense for refs to take a sec and talk to assistant refs-surely.
So it’s either ref is making a decision on his own without consulting or ignoring assistant refs advice. Or discussions took place and all 3 got it wrong-either way totally unacceptable for this level.
But his initial reaction yesterday was that Tierny got it right, also failing to recognise that the ball was out of the area when play was stopped.Mike Dean, the man whose presence on Soccer Saturday is purely just to publicly defend referreing decisions that 95% of which are a) wrong, and b) benefit the top clubs?
That Mike Dean? Christ, Poor Tierney really has screwed up this time.
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That’s true. I used to be a referee and at a referees meeting once we had an ex premier league ref as a guest speaker and he told us that some referees don’t take any notice if their assistants apartThey're arrogant bastards, there are some refs who clearly instruct their assistants to only flag for throw ins, some of the pricks don't even seem to give up that power.
I know,but surely this makes the home team to be more of a favourite..True, but it doesn’t mean that the same results will be in the reverse fixtures.
im kinda thinking 38-40 points could be enough..To achieve what?
Not survival surely? That wont be enough without a points deduction, let alone with one.
I'm thinking that sounds a lot at the moment and that's without a points deduction.im kinda thinking 38-40 points could be enough..
I think 40 sounds a tall order but 38 seems a bit more likely and possible-even with a pointsI'm thinking that sounds a lot at the moment and that's without a points deduction.
I hope you're right Cloughie, we need to start putting the teams we should be beating to the sword and not just turning up for the bigger teams.I think 40 sounds a tall order but 38 seems a bit more likely and possible-even with a points
deduction the game at Luton is a classic 6 pointer.
Possibly,but there are no easy games,Wes-we have a habit of shooting ourselves in the foot (not helpedI hope you're right Cloughie, we need to start putting the teams we should be beating to the sword and not just turning up for the bigger teams.
That feels more doable!Luton have 12 games left. Theye on 20pts feom 5 wins and 5 draws and 16 losses. Or 0.77ppg. If you're generous with them then assign them 4 wins and 2 draws - a 1.16ppg haul - would take them to 34pts.
This.Or is that something they aren't allowed to be involved in?
The irony being that was as clear and obvious an error as you'll ever encounter.This.
They can't comment on anything other than their 4 areas of concern.
But there are lots of incidents outside of t he 4 areas where refs make obvious errors.The irony being that was as clear and obvious an error as you'll ever encounter.