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Nuno Herlander Simões Espírito Santo

Satisfied with the replacement?

  • Yes

    Votes: 130 80.7%

  • No, I think we could've got better

    Votes: 31 19.3%
  • Total voters
    161
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dr_horse

Geoff Thomas
Omar Devone Little said:
Espirito Santo was never even on my radar to be honest but to be fair his CV is more than decent. It's not like we've swapped Cooper for Gerrard is it?

I just hope for his sake as much as the team that he gets a win Saturday as unfortunately he'll be up against it from the beginning from a decent chunk of the support.
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He'll be up against it because of the playing staff available to him.



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dr_horse

Geoff Thomas
TrentEndDr said:
Did MGW play under Nuno or was he one of the managers that weren't particularly fond of him? I get he's grown a lot since his wolves day, but I'd also hope any bad feelings are a thing of the past.

(Note: I may be completely wrong in which case this post is pointless)
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Last season there he started him a few times, more subs. No idea if they got on/how he did.



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Collymore!

Collymore!

Grenville Morris
Villa_Fan said:
If fans want their club to be in the Premier League then it must be managed like that. PL revenues for clubs are 150m+ a year, it is not a place for emotional decisions. If fans want to support a club that concerns itself with the more wholesome values they need to drop a few leagues to find that
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Currently. Nobody has truly tried to do anything differently.

Clubs like us are now in a similar place to Leeds, Saints, Leicester, Norwich, WBA, QPR, and a whole list of other dross Championship teams who got a little too big for their station and through a few hundred million investments should have them competing with the top 6. It's ill-thought-through and will have us back in the same place as the above-mentioned teams.

We'd have survived with Steve, but I feel our real problems are much deeper in the recruitment / strategic areas of the club.
 
Col Steve Austin

Col Steve Austin

Viv Anderson
Collymore! said:
Tinpot club behavior from us.

We're just another soulless club now with no other identity than a bunch of journeymen managed by a nameless face. They're all interchangeable, and nothing particularly matters.

The only measurement of success now is financial and league position, and if manager X fails to deliver that, we'll get in manager Y, and neither will care about Forest or our fans. No bigger picture, no wider collective.

As mentioned before, he'll get no time from me which isn't particularly his fault and I can unfair as he's a victim of poor circumstances, but that's the way it is. Nothing less than a convincing win against Bournemouth is acceptable.
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The soul of the club doesn't lie with a manager, or an owner, or any player. The soul of the club is the fans. We've had good times, we've had bad times. We've won the European cup twice, we've been relegated to the third division. We've lost OBE, Frank, Paul Hart, Cooper and countless others who had a bond with the club.

And there'll be more. If Nuno keeps us up this season, and does a Wolves with us, you'll love him just as much when we're lining up in the UEFA Cup quarter finals.

Everything is transient, except the fans.
 
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Villa_Fan

First Team Squad
Collymore! said:
Currently. Nobody has truly tried to do anything differently.

Clubs like us are now in a similar place to Leeds, Saints, Leicester, Norwich, WBA, QPR, and a whole list of other dross Championship teams who got a little too big for their station and through a few hundred million investments should have them competing with the top 6. It's ill-thought-through and will have us back in the same place as the above-mentioned teams.

We'd have survived with Steve, but I feel our real problems are much deeper in the recruitment / strategic areas of the club.
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I agree that the recruitment and strategic areas are the parts of the club that need to be right for the club to properly progress but we fans can't choose the owner of our club unfortunately. As regards putting yourself in a bucket list with the clubs you mention, I would think Forest and Leeds are much much bigger clubs than the others and if any clubs 'deserve' to be in the PL I would count Forest and Leeds as two. Bloody hell, you have won the European Cup twice, more than Man City and more than most clubs in England and Europe.
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Villa_Fan said:
If fans want their club to be in the Premier League then it must be managed like that. PL revenues for clubs are 150m+ a year, it is not a place for emotional decisions. If fans want to support a club that concerns itself with the more wholesome values they need to drop a few leagues to find that
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Not necessarily.

We seem to manage OK in Germany with pretty much any club that isn’t Leipzig, Wolfsburg or Leverkusen?
 
Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
Notcher said:
Does anyone know what size backroom staff Nuno has?

I'm hoping that's one thing which will be addressed. As much as I love Coops I can't help but feel this was an Achilles of his for some time
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Stoke fan mate of mine said it was why stoke didn't get past initial conversation - he wanted to bring in his full team which is sizeable.
 
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Harry1982

Grenville Morris
TrentEndDr said:
Did MGW play under Nuno or was he one of the managers that weren't particularly fond of him? I get he's grown a lot since his wolves day, but I'd also hope any bad feelings are a thing of the past.

(Note: I may be completely wrong in which case this post is pointless)
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Think during nuno time he was barely 18 or 19 near the end, so I doubt it
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
eyupmeduck

eyupmeduck

Geoff Thomas
Notcher said:
Does anyone know what size backroom staff Nuno has?

I'm hoping that's one thing which will be addressed. As much as I love Coops I can't help but feel this was an Achilles of his for some time
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According to The Athletic it was a huge part of his time at Wolves.

Lord knows if the set piece guy was hired in the knowledge of this as well.
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Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
Monkman said:
On the face of it, that seems positive.
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I can make a positive case for Santo, though it's come around in disappointing circumstances and the whole agent thing puts me off. I don't like the inflated fee thing, though it ain't my money.

For me, Santo was a rich man's lamouchi, in that he played it the same way (control without possession) but struggled in the same way Sabro did without the crowds.

Good communicator in languages useful within our squad, decent record with bringing through youth, positive MGW and Boly links, counter attacking ethos, recent prem experience (and PPG record)... I hope we get the best of him.
 
Alf-engelos Mindminackers

Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Omar Devone Little said:
Espirito Santo was never even on my radar to be honest but to be fair his CV is more than decent. It's not like we've swapped Cooper for Gerrard is it?

I just hope for his sake as much as the team that he gets a win Saturday as unfortunately he'll be up against it from the beginning from a decent chunk of the support.
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Yeah, he will unfortunately.

It's all about results now as Nuno has no credit with the fans. If he gets them then that's ace, we can move forward to a bright future hopefully, but replacing Cooper has killed a lot of the good feeling he built.

Anyone expecting Cooper's sacking to do anything but offer up a poisoned chalice for the next bloke is incredibly short-sighted. Dreading a heavy defeat at home. Nuno has to turn things round quickly.
 
PynchonForest

PynchonForest

John Robertson
I think what is key is how the players react. We have to remember that many of our squad aren't green. We have Brazilian, Argentine, Nigerian etc internationals and there a fair chunk who have played European competition ball---they all know about Santo. He did well in Spain with Valencia, fairly well at Porto, and did well with Wolves. Just won the league In Saudi Arabia. I think anyone underwhelmed by this appointment isn't really examining his resume well. On paper this looks a good, and very prudent, appointment.
 
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