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Dean Bradley Henderson
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Morpeth
John Robertson
I just watched the bit of the game where he goes off and it was a huge kick but he didn’t look in absolute agony and he also pushed up on the bad leg when he got up. Hopefully for him it’s just a tweak and a precautionary substitution. Mind you, that’s what we thought 8 months ago.
Baronvon
Jack Burkitt
It's clear after Omar Richards, we aren't leaving anything to chance anymore. Bullet dodged for sure.
Huge shame for the player though. Hope he has a speedy recovery.
Huge shame for the player though. Hope he has a speedy recovery.
Thomas
AMERICAN IDIOT
Telling you man, the first time I saw this dude a kick a ball in anger I was astounded by the motion. And it bit him in the ass again.
Just pay whatever my fat ugly hairy white arse.
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Just pay whatever my fat ugly hairy white arse.
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DizzyBala
Jack Armstrong
Let's be completely honest here.
We didn't sign him because we didn't want to spunk our budget for improving the squad in general on a goalkeeper or commit to an loan agreement that would have very likely meant we'd have had to pay for Henderson this year. I'm sure we had concerns about his injury but we spent two thirds of the window and played with Ethan Horvath in pre-season trying to sign this guy. Throw in De Gea leaving and United being balls to the wall with FFP themselves as well.
I really liked Deano and normally, I could give a f*** about another club's player but then I remember how invested he was, while injured, in this club staying in the Premierleague last year and his passion for playing for it. I hope his injury doesn't keep him out for too long.
Ultimately, we signed Turner and that appears to have been a good move for us, in terms of financial flexibility and Matt. United got Henderson off their books and managed to keep the lights on at Old Trafford and Palace got themselves a good mid-table goalkeeper. Everyone won.
Not having this "maybe Ross knew what he was doing" revisionist bollocks. Until George came back, he was fannying about. If Henderson had a worldie tonight, the same people would probably say we've had a stinker.
We didn't sign him because we didn't want to spunk our budget for improving the squad in general on a goalkeeper or commit to an loan agreement that would have very likely meant we'd have had to pay for Henderson this year. I'm sure we had concerns about his injury but we spent two thirds of the window and played with Ethan Horvath in pre-season trying to sign this guy. Throw in De Gea leaving and United being balls to the wall with FFP themselves as well.
I really liked Deano and normally, I could give a f*** about another club's player but then I remember how invested he was, while injured, in this club staying in the Premierleague last year and his passion for playing for it. I hope his injury doesn't keep him out for too long.
Ultimately, we signed Turner and that appears to have been a good move for us, in terms of financial flexibility and Matt. United got Henderson off their books and managed to keep the lights on at Old Trafford and Palace got themselves a good mid-table goalkeeper. Everyone won.
Not having this "maybe Ross knew what he was doing" revisionist bollocks. Until George came back, he was fannying about. If Henderson had a worldie tonight, the same people would probably say we've had a stinker.
REDDERS78
Jack Armstrong
In fairness I was one of them. I'm not convinced the whole saga was relating to Forest for being able to predict this happening though, and probably more to do with the financials. I mean, why spend all summer chasing a player that you think will get injured again? Makes no sense.
Of course I'm happy we made the call for whatever reason it was but I've seen a fair bit of gloating online for some reason. I feel really sorry for Hendo and wish him as speedy recovery as possible.
Omar Devone Little
Mr Realistic
They spent the entire summer chasing him so clearly the injury wasn't an issue for us.
He didn't sign because we firstly wouldn't pay the money and then tried to kick the can down the road and get him on loan so we could pay next year, which United weren't keen on. We'd have probably paid what was necessary if we'd known Brennan was off.
Monkman
Grenville Morris
Ha f***ing hell, I almost posted a joke about the credit all being Syrianos', but it turns out I didn't need to! Hard to believe after the transfer window we had that some still refuse to give Wilson any credit at all 
Redemption
One less gobshite...
There was no plan at all.Ha f***ing hell, I almost posted a joke about the credit all being Syrianos', but it turns out I didn't need to! Hard to believe after the transfer window we had that some still refuse to give Wilson any credit at all
Everything happened when gorgeous George rocked up.
Hendo's thigh proves it.
EM should resign. He's the circus ring master that keeps empowering these clowns.
Monkman
Grenville Morris
George must have even sent an anonymous tip about Ola Aina, weeks before he was officially involved.
Eddie Yates
Steve Chettle
"Chasing him all summer" my arse
He was of course an option that was under consideration but anyone who thinks his injury didn't influence Forest's decision needs to give their head a wobble
He was of course an option that was under consideration but anyone who thinks his injury didn't influence Forest's decision needs to give their head a wobble
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Personally think Forest just valued Henderson less than Man Utd wanted and when it became clear Man Utd weren't going to budge even late on in the window we decided to move onto backup targets first in Turner then in the Greek keeper.
If we were genuinely worried about the potential of recurrent injury then we either wouldn't have been interested in him at all or it would have been factored into our offer.
I do feel sorry for Henderson in one sense, but on the other hand he's not exactly been left to rot at United and is at a decent, progressive club at Palace, earning loads and living in the capital. He's not exactly in a bad place.
If we were genuinely worried about the potential of recurrent injury then we either wouldn't have been interested in him at all or it would have been factored into our offer.
I do feel sorry for Henderson in one sense, but on the other hand he's not exactly been left to rot at United and is at a decent, progressive club at Palace, earning loads and living in the capital. He's not exactly in a bad place.
Monkman
Grenville Morris
It probably was factored into our offer. You know, because Wilson isn't actually a fat incompetent Scottish twat.
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
He’s just big boned
I don’t think that’s the full picture at all.
The disagreement was how many games needed to be played before the clause was activated. A loan agreement with an obligation to buy kicks the can down the road to next year regardless of number of games so that isn’t about budget.
United wanted 3. Forest wanted ~20. Now being perfectly honest, as you say, I can’t see any other reason for that than we were very mindful of his injury.
Can’t work out how this scenario is having to be debated as a win for the club and not just dumb luck and us being tight.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
It's sort of about budget.
It would have deferred the transfer past January and into 2023/2024 season, meaning impact FFP in that season not this, and also means cash-flow out is deferred to a point whereby there's (probably) an extra £100m+ in the coffers.
Worth remembering when the transfer collapsed we hadn't sold Brennan yet nor splurged on our deadline day signings.
Monkman
Grenville Morris
It would have been deferred past January whether the trigger was 3 games or 20. Look at the Wood transfer.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
We signed Wood in January. He featured in his 3rd game after the January window had closed.
There's 22 games up until end of January. All we would have had to do is not play Henderson in 2 games up until that point to move that transfer into 2023/2024 had he signed for us in August.
An obligation to buy at 20 games would not have deferred the transfer past January (assuming he was first choice / playing every league game).
20 games would have kicked in after the Man Utd game on 30th December, so the transfer would have been on this books this season.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Potentially not fit for the opening fixtures, no need to play him against Man City away when we're going to lose anyway....
Easily achieved if you want to push the transfer through to next year without sacrificing overall season goals.
Much harder to achieve if the trigger is 10 games say.
I'm simply not convinced we'd sign a keeper and then say - "Steve, just remember you need to drop him at least twice before the end of the year".
The idea that it's caution over a long term injury we'd already seen up close seems like the far more realistic scenario.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
I just don't see us dropping any amount of significant money if we have serious concerns over a players long term injury status.
Why would we care about insisting on a loan-with-obligation-to-buy if it was due to injury worries? It doesn't make any sense. You either don't buy the player at all or you negotiate a significant discount on the purchase price to reflect the risk.
Whatever it was, Forest played hardball and it was nice to see us not capitulate so easily like we'd all gotten used to over the last 2 decades.
Stocky Red
First Team Squad
The only revisioning going on is from the minority on here that slated the club and the recruitment team all summer, and now are having to reverse engineer there views given the mounting evidence that we are in fact a well run football club.
Monkman
Grenville Morris
The Wood transfer wasn’t actually completed until the summer - it was our first signing in June, remember. The trigger happened earlier but when exactly was irrelevant.
Either way, as has been said, the injury was clearly a major factor in us insisting on that longer trigger.