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Rzar

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
I think that Spurs squad needs arms round their shoulders, not lunatics like Conte & Mourinho. This guy is from the Cooper style of talking about family and making yourself feel good.

I don’t buy into this Spurs are in a terrible position stuff, people said the same about Arsenal last season. They still have the second best player in the League.
 
Morpeth

Morpeth

John Robertson
MaxiRobriguez said:
Personally think Spurs need to move on from Kane. They base all their play through him and he's whilst he's an exceptional finisher I don't think he's actually that good in the build up.

Bit like Forest and Grabban last year, people panicked a bit because our goalscorer was out but our most complete performances and best runs of results came when it was BJ and Davis up top, the attacking unit felt a lot less forced.
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Kane is a superb striker and his build up play is brilliant too. Problem is he can’t do both at the same time.
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Spurs could potentially threaten the top-four, but their main problem is they are not run as a team built up for winning, they are run as a financial vehicle to make money, and to extort the highest possible return for any player who dares to ask to leave.

That, and in Daniel Levy, they have one of the most awkward, unpopular Chief Executives in football (but, that is of course his right).

They need a clearout and a rebuild. If Man U are willing to throw stupid money at them for Kane, it might actually be a good idea to use that income to rebuild and rebalance their squad, and to then make a top-four push.
 
Ashley

Ashley

Steve Chettle
MaxiRobriguez said:
Personally think Spurs need to move on from Kane. They base all their play through him and he's whilst he's an exceptional finisher I don't think he's actually that good in the build up.

Bit like Forest and Grabban last year, people panicked a bit because our goalscorer was out but our most complete performances and best runs of results came when it was BJ and Davis up top, the attacking unit felt a lot less forced.
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Perhaps, but I think Spurs have relied on him for so long that there isn't a real plan for when he leaves though. I don't think the rest of their squad is good enough to compensate for his loss and is in need of a bit of an overhaul (unlikely to happen under Levy).

Can see them having as poor a season as what Chelsea have just had personally.
 
Ashley

Ashley

Steve Chettle
Rzar said:
I think that Spurs squad needs arms round their shoulders, not lunatics like Conte & Mourinho. This guy is from the Cooper style of talking about family and making yourself feel good.

I don’t buy into this Spurs are in a terrible position stuff, people said the same about Arsenal last season. They still have the second best player in the League.
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Depends what is meant by terrible position. Are they going to be scrapping at the bottom? Of course not. Are they going to get anywhere near the heights they were a few years ago under Pochettino? I highly doubt they will any time soon.

That club just feels a bit stale and lacking direction, with or without Kane. I think they really need a rebuild, but will any manager be given the time and resources to do it?
 
Flaggers

Flaggers

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
LTLF Minion
HBB

HBB

Jack Burkitt
If spurs aren't playing the system Postie wants then its going to take time - the good thing is that he's been brought in at the right time - has a gap now before pre-season then time to meet and assess is current squad and still has the window open to get rid of those he doesn't want and bring in those he does. That's a good start but as ever it'll be about results and the patience of the fans and the owner.
 
Rzar

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Ashley said:
Depends what is meant by terrible position. Are they going to be scrapping at the bottom? Of course not. Are they going to get anywhere near the heights they were a few years ago under Pochettino? I highly doubt they will any time soon.

That club just feels a bit stale and lacking direction, with or without Kane. I think they really need a rebuild, but will any manager be given the time and resources to do it?
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People said the same about us the season we went up.

It only takes a good appointment, the squad is there - maybe they don't need a manager that keeps telling them their squad are weak and bottlers.
 
Ashley

Ashley

Steve Chettle
Rzar said:
People said the same about us the season we went up.

It only takes a good appointment, the squad is there - maybe they don't need a manager that keeps telling them their squad are weak and bottlers.
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I don't think its just a squad mentality issue at Spurs though. Its a stale squad that has relied heavily on one player for too long. And as we know in the Premier League, you can't ever stand still or go backwards otherwise someone will most likely take your place.

Spurs decline couldn't come at a worse time, with Newcastle's rise this season. They've a lot of work to do just to become a top 6 side again now, let alone become part of the top 4 conversation.
 
Haych

Haych

John Robertson
I actually really rate Ange. I don’t think it’s a smart move for him however as Spurs as a club make zero sense.

It’ll be interesting to watch from afar anyway.
 
Ashley

Ashley

Steve Chettle
Haych said:
I actually really rate Ange. I don’t think it’s a smart move for him however as Spurs as a club make zero sense.

It’ll be interesting to watch from afar anyway.
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For a club who has their shit together, I reckon he'd be a really interesting appointment.

Unfortunately, Spurs do not have their shit together and is a tough job for anyone.
 
M

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
Ashley said:
Perhaps, but I think Spurs have relied on him for so long that there isn't a real plan for when he leaves though. I don't think the rest of their squad is good enough to compensate for his loss and is in need of a bit of an overhaul (unlikely to happen under Levy).

Can see them having as poor a season as what Chelsea have just had personally.
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I agree.

But I think Kane forces that rebuild.

It's too easy for them at the moment to just buy an extra advanced midfielder or two and go "but we've got Kane so we'll be fine."

Not having him forces a complete re-think of what they want to be as a team.
 
Ashley

Ashley

Steve Chettle
MaxiRobriguez said:
I agree.

But I think Kane forces that rebuild.

It's too easy for them at the moment to just buy an extra advanced midfielder or two and go "but we've got Kane so we'll be fine."

Not having him forces a complete re-think of what they want to be as a team.
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I don't disagree. But the big question is are Spurs actually going to give a manager the time to rebuild (which realistically will take a few transfer windows) and the funds to do so? Or will they shit the bed if (or rather when) they are midtable at Christmas?

Ange could be decent if they give him the time and resources, but I am not convinced they will.
 
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Monkman

Monkman

Grenville Morris
Four year contract isn't it? That's a decent length. (Though of course that doesn't protect him from the sack.)
 
Project Zeus

Project Zeus

Steve Chettle
Looks like MacAllister's move to Liverpool is happening, with the fee at £55m according to the BBC.

That's a good deal for both clubs, IMO. Brighton's model is so impressive - I wonder how many gems they'll find with this money.
 
Rzar

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Project Zeus said:
Looks like MacAllister's move to Liverpool is happening, with the fee at £55m according to the BBC.

That's a good deal for both clubs, IMO. Brighton's model is so impressive - I wonder how many gems they'll find with this money.
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Be interesting to see whether he actually is good or is he another player that just gets elevated by Brighton's system.

I must admit on paper he doesn't suit the way Klopp uses his midfielders.
 
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MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
Project Zeus said:
Looks like MacAllister's move to Liverpool is happening, with the fee at £55m according to the BBC.

That's a good deal for both clubs, IMO. Brighton's model is so impressive - I wonder how many gems they'll find with this money.
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I heard it was significantly less than that figure touted - nearer £40m.
 
adam09

adam09

Super Koopa
Rzar said:
Be interesting to see whether he actually is good or is he another player that just gets elevated by Brighton's system.

I must admit on paper he doesn't suit the way Klopp uses his midfielders.
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He seems like a very consistent 'cog' in a machine sort of player to me. I'm not sure that will raise Liverpool a level alongside what they've already got.
 
Redemption

Redemption

One less gobshite...
It was £45 with Addons upto £55.

They're getting a superb player. Fierce, adept, good with the ball and without it.

He'll get coached into Liverpool's system.
 
HBB

HBB

Jack Burkitt
Rzar said:
The guy who is trying (and still in pole position) to buy Sheffield United:


Chris Kirchner mk2. You wonder how many of these gormy con men that actually get away with it.
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It's frightening really isn't it that despite all the supposed systems and checks that people can make that a guy like this and Kirchner can get within 1000 miles of being a preferred bidder for a club or finance or anything - the idea that anyone with real wealth can be on the phone saying the equivalent of "the cheque's in the post" in this day and age is batshit crazy
 
Statto

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
Eddie Yates said:
An Argie called Mcallister

I reckon his Grandad was a jock that went to the 78 world cup who got so pissed he never went home & ended up sowing his ginger oats throughout Buenos Aires
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He was, I think he's mixed Scottish and Irish ancestry, probably the rest of that is true too lols
 
Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
Whenever I hear his name I think of the Cloughie story involving the other one wearing cowboy boots at the Novotel. Shame about his footwear choice - he'd have been incredible for us back then.
 
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