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Sustainability
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Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD.
Fulchester United
I would imagine it's bacon.
Fitzcarraldo
Ian Storey-Moore
The collective and global effort needed to solve the problem will not really begin until the US is ready. Which is only likely when they suffer a major climate catastrophe.
The thing with the US is they do have a history of dawdling on world issues but ultimately do the right thing when they do, finally, decide to act. And, once they're in they're all in and the rest of the world follows.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
I was speaking generally rather than about you, actually, sorry to disappoint. I don't do sly digs myself, and if I was aiming something at you personally I would address you directly.Nice underhand dig but I've already given examples of my consumption reduction, if you missed it whilst relentlessly banging on about why my smartphone usage made me a hypocrite.
Believe it or not, some people are actively trying to make better choices.
The smartphone example also wasn't actually aimed at you specifically either, it was example of a common luxury item that is damaging to the environment.
There are some folk who are genuinely doing what they can to be more environmentally conscious, and if you're one of the few that practice what they preach then fair play mate. But unfortunately it doesn't change the fact that a lot of people (again, not you) who want people to change their lifestyles aren't willing to make sacrifices themselves.
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I live north of Nottingham City but not that far north. I go from my estate onto a 60mph road to the m1 then M1-M18-A1. It's about 145-150 miles from my house to Newcastle Centre.
The Chinese (a great bunch of lads) are actually far worse than the yanks when it comes to pollution and carbon emissions.
And of course their population is about four times that of America, too, and they aren’t as industrially advanced, nor do they have the Americans‘ climate lobby.
youreds1986
Geoff Thomas
We have rightly taken criticism for it and anyone trying to deflect with 'well so and so does...' is childishly and purposefully missing the point.
We all have responsibility to cut our carbon footprints. I'd argue businesses and professional sports teams have an even more important role in setting the tone. And that includes our Prime Minister who took a private jet for a short photo shoot yesterday.
Hopefully the club adapts future plans and travels in a more sustainable manner.
We all have responsibility to cut our carbon footprints. I'd argue businesses and professional sports teams have an even more important role in setting the tone. And that includes our Prime Minister who took a private jet for a short photo shoot yesterday.
Hopefully the club adapts future plans and travels in a more sustainable manner.
Ashley
Steve Chettle
It isn't childish or missing the point though. Especially when a lot of the more vocal people asking others to change their lifestyles do a piss poor job of setting the tone themselves.
Fitzcarraldo
Ian Storey-Moore
When the US shifts investment strategies to tackling the issue head-on China will follow.
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
Nuclear is the way forward. A human during their lifetime will only leave waste the size of a coke can. How we dispose of it in order to go that way is this generations rubix cube to solve. Maybe Scarpa can help?
Isn't there a new form of nuclear power that leaves zero waste currently in development? I'm sure it's just been discovered (in the last 6 months).
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Great to have brought you onto message.
If you think your tiny, miniscule, irrelevant effort to cut back on your teeny tiny carbon footprint will do anything to change the path we are on as a planet, you are sadly misinformed.
The industrial (and agricultural) economy is totally linked to energy consumption.
Despite 27 COP summits, all it took for the rest of the world to forget about the problems of fossil fuels being burned was for the nation controlling much of western European gas supply to stop supply before all the other governments reverse the move away from coal and wood pellet burning to generate electricity.
Indeed, our own UK Government has just approved a planning application for a new coal field to be developed in Cumbria.
Drax is the biggest single burner of wood pellets (gaining massive green energy subsidies in the process, because wood pellets are not classed as a fossil fuel), accounts for quite a bit more greenhouse gas production than the 1 tree you mention in your post.
It isn't environmentably sustainable, but you, me and the whole LTLF forum cannot do anything to change the way things are.
I'm off now to light the log burner... it's a bit nippy in the Vale.
Berkshire Red
Jack Armstrong
Strange isn't it? How those making decisions for everyone don't ever seem to follow their own suggestions, or demands. Prince Charles suggests we all live more sustainably, yet travels by private jet frequently, the rest of his family do likewise. Those attending the Davos meet won't be getting there by public transport in the main yet will spend hours finding ways the rest of us can cut down on our carbon footprint. Amazing how many of them benefit as their companies rely on folk's consumption habits change towards staying at home, or their Government's raise vast amounts through taxation of non-sustainable activities.
Anyway, should Forest have flown to Blackpool? Probably not. But if everyone else is doing it, what's the issue?
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Every energy source comes with a price.
It is a entropy...
I am feeling quite relaxed about the ability of the planet to respond.
Read the Gaia Hypothesis... a brilliant piece of 1960's thinking.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Have you tried to sustain 83 mph on the A1 lately?
Ashley
Steve Chettle
A lot of "do as I say, not as I do" with these folk.
Not that it's an excuse to not do our bit, but no one likes being told what to do by people who aren't willing to make changes themselves.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
Good post. At the end of the day, we need energy to power our computers, TVs, other electric stuff, heating, charge our phones, provide data masts etc.
Even uber-snowflakes like Greta Thunberg still use SM and have phones, computers etc.
These things all need charging and yes it's best to get these from renewable sources where possible but this is unlikely in a place like the UK where we neither have reliable sun or wind (unlike in GT's native scandinavia where they can use HEP)
I bet these people would be the first to whine incessantly about planned power cuts and would also be the first to whine incessantly about burning fossil fuels. But can they have it both ways? I say not.
Ideally we'd avoid fossil fuels entirely, use renewables where available and top up the base demand with fission but even that won't please some people.
Morpeth
John Robertson
It’s 167 to the city ground which is not where you live. I do it regularly.
Rockabilly
GAFF LAD. "Open your knees and feel the breeze"
Worra loada bollocks this thread is... let VAR decide.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Ask the Chinese and Indian governments their opinion on the matter ,they don’t seem to care to much about these things.
On the other hand there is Pinocchio Prince Harry who has his views on sustainability but then jumps on a private jet to New York to talk more bile to the American press
On the other hand there is Pinocchio Prince Harry who has his views on sustainability but then jumps on a private jet to New York to talk more bile to the American press
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
Offside unless its against livarpool
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
Normal people wouldn't have to change what they do day to day if Big Business, politicans & China could be arsed.
But they don't even care enough to put buildings up properly, they are not gonna give a flying f*** what damage they are doing to the enviornment.
The whole thing is just another way to have a dig at footballers, I suppose they should be giving their wages to the nurses as well.
But they don't even care enough to put buildings up properly, they are not gonna give a flying f*** what damage they are doing to the enviornment.
The whole thing is just another way to have a dig at footballers, I suppose they should be giving their wages to the nurses as well.
It probably was that, but somone announced they had solve the problem. I can't remember where I saw it or who solved it
