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Snatchday 1: Nottingham Forest Vs the PGMOL
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Lefkasman
Ian Bowyer
Talk sport owned by Murdoch talking about integrity.
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Bing Crosby's Head
A. Trialist
The FA use a support VAR as well as an assistant VAR for matches where they use VAR. Don't know why they think they need someone extra and the Prem don't.
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
I mean, given how quickly the decisions were reached, it ought to be a f***ing short recording at least.
I'm hoping so much for a scandal to come out which means we never have to hear Gary Neville's opinion again, and him kissing the boots of his paymasters, managing to turn every post game no matter what game, into a conversation about Man U. Carragher is no better, but at least he doesn't seem to believe his own hype, Neville talks like every phrase that comes out of his mouth is perfect and genius. 'kin el, when he was talking about Clattenburg, he may as well have said "I Sir Neville, do decree that those peasants from Nottingham Forest, should hence forth execute Clattenburg by nightfall, so sayeth Sir Neville! I have spoken!"
And all that bollocks about Forest are ruining their great reputation and class etc, and he speaks about Clough, he talks about us like we haven't existed for the last 25 years, No Gary, the moment a club goes out of the Premier League, they don't stop existing, as much as you and your buddies think they do.
And all that bollocks about Forest are ruining their great reputation and class etc, and he speaks about Clough, he talks about us like we haven't existed for the last 25 years, No Gary, the moment a club goes out of the Premier League, they don't stop existing, as much as you and your buddies think they do.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
To be fair, for 23 of the last 25 years we might as well not have existed.
Lefkasman
Ian Bowyer
They might call Boris Johnson as a character witness
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I'm Red Till Dead
Stuart Pearce
I think it was a trainee.
bearwood red
A. Trialist
The question over Atwell’s perceived conflict of interest isn’t an issue for me. If it was just Forest in the relegation mix with Luton, then maybe. But both teams are (or were) competing with them and there was no result that very clearly favoured Luton more than the other two possible outcomes.
However, the ratio of big decisions that have gone against/for us this season is too big to just be bad luck. There is clearly an unconscious bias against Forest, there is no other explanation. I don’t know how or why this started (I suspect our complaint after the Old Trafford game) but the more we have complained, the worse it has got.
I have played cricket for years and learnt a long time ago, you get more favourable decisions from umpires if you tell them how good they are rather than pointing out their mistakes. I think this is a similar scenario and we have, to some extent, brought this on ourselves.
However, the ratio of big decisions that have gone against/for us this season is too big to just be bad luck. There is clearly an unconscious bias against Forest, there is no other explanation. I don’t know how or why this started (I suspect our complaint after the Old Trafford game) but the more we have complained, the worse it has got.
I have played cricket for years and learnt a long time ago, you get more favourable decisions from umpires if you tell them how good they are rather than pointing out their mistakes. I think this is a similar scenario and we have, to some extent, brought this on ourselves.
Robertson
Geoff Thomas
I hear what you're saying.
But it's a multi-billion dollar industry now (sadly). We shouldn't have to kiss the officials arses to get a fair crack of the whip.
Alan Akbah
Geoff Thomas
Am I the only one that thought that said "there's anal for that"?
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
I'm Red Till Dead
Stuart Pearce
I'm with Keith Hackett on this though, PGMOL should have shielded Attwell against any perceived bias by not putting him in that situation.
Otherwise it's very easy to make the jump from incompetence to bias.
Bad management on the part of PGMOL.
Cloughie1975
John Robertson
There’s life outside the Premier League,Captain-despite what the pri*ks at Sky would
have us believe.
They can stick the Premier League trophy up their Jacksy for me.
No...
Every week we hear pundits talking about players diving and cheating, "he's cheated the ref", "he's thrown himself to the ground, he's cheating", so why can we question the integrity of the players, but we can't question the integrity of the officials? This whole corrupt football world is tailored towards never questioning how it is.
If Saka dives, to try to win a penalty, everyone says he's cheated, but for some reason its absolute blasphomy when you say it about an official?
If Saka dives, to try to win a penalty, everyone says he's cheated, but for some reason its absolute blasphomy when you say it about an official?
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
I don't know why anyone would question the integrity of referees, it's not on they just wouldn't be corrupted.....except for the one we had against Anderlecht, oh and in Italy, oh and in Spain, oh and in Africa, oh and Greece, oh and Turkey, oh and South America......but except for those I don't know why
Tricky Tourist
Viv Anderson
All any Forest supporter needs to do is recall Anderlecht and that should be sufficient to acknowledge that these repeat occurrences shouldn't simply be dismissed as "unconscious bias."
Tricky Tourist
Viv Anderson
Haha, you beat me to it
Look, it doesn’t really matter whether Atwell supports Luton Town or whoever, he made an absolute bollocks of his job, and he only had one job, most definitely in the case of the second and third shouts yesterday.
His being a Luton fan is just to support an accusation of conscious or unconscious bias, but in reality, were you or I as crap at our job, we would sacked.
But he will - like all of that shower that PGMOL promote as the best in the world (ha!) - just carry on next week making some other teams‘ fans miserable.
His being a Luton fan is just to support an accusation of conscious or unconscious bias, but in reality, were you or I as crap at our job, we would sacked.
But he will - like all of that shower that PGMOL promote as the best in the world (ha!) - just carry on next week making some other teams‘ fans miserable.
Notcher
Stuart Pearce
Just saw it
. There's either a narrative being pushed, complete denial or a major case of cognitive dissonance. I'm yet to make up my mind which yet.Bing Crosby's Head
A. Trialist
No they include an assistant referee (linesman)
Might need to update the Thread title to Forest vs the PGMOL and the Premier League. Can't wait to breach PSR due to these fines.
Seriously though there wouldn't be clubs questioning the integrity of the league if they could do there jobs correctly
One day a Scandal will come out and I can't wait
Seriously though there wouldn't be clubs questioning the integrity of the league if they could do there jobs correctly
One day a Scandal will come out and I can't wait
Anyway, Forest be like:
(Go on, you know you’ve read that Tweet in Darth Vader‘s voice!)