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Matchday 29 - Luton Town Football Club vs Nottingham Forest Football Club. Saturday 16th of March KO 3pm (I think)

Hatters v Forest


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Subin Hwang

Not that Korean guy
In retrospect, how did we even beat Newcastle and ManU with this team last year?? The holidays sure bring miracles.
 

Quntib Hollox

Jack Armstrong
I'm surprised nobody can ever look past the scoreline. But for a scrappy late goal everyone's saying it's a triumph for Nuno's game plan.
But there’s more scruffy late goals go into the back of our net than practically every other premier team so why would you set up a second half to invite the other team on. We don’t close down the space well enough to keep teams at arms length so it’s a recipe for disaster.
 

BryanRoy22

Ian Bowyer
The game was always likely to be decided by set pieces. MGW is a great player but his free kicks and corners are pathetic. His direct free kick on the edge of the area was pathetic. We'd be shitting ourselves if the opposition had that sort of chance against us. Give someone else a go FFS.
If we had Lewis McGugan when he was fit and mentally on it, we'd have won/drawn a few more games this season based on set pieces alone.

As many supporters quite rightly mention here on a regular basis, set pieces are a huge factor in tight games, and the fact a new set piece coach has been unable to improve anything at either end of the pitch is a huge failure this season.
 

REDDERS78

Jack Armstrong
I'm feeling better about the result I think than most appear to be even though we conceded a late set piece again, its what we do.

Looking at Brentford fixtures, they've got 3 in a row that they are odds on to lose and then play our relegation rivals which are essentially win wins for us whatever the results.

I've said earlier Luton have a tougher run of games as well and probably 4 where they can expect to gain points.

Everton have also got a further deduction to come most likely and also play everyone else in the relegation fight so they'll either survive with ease by taking points off of everyone or cock it up and go down.



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I look at these things and can see why some would gain some postives but ultimately it means nothing because you realise we need to take advantage of it but probably wont.

At times like this I look at Forest, not other teams.

I just wished I had some confidence in us at this point.
 

magicwoand

It tizwas it is
If we had Lewis McGugan when he was fit and mentally on it, we'd have won/drawn a few more games this season based on set pieces alone.

As many supporters quite rightly mention here on a regular basis, set pieces are a huge factor in tight games, and the fact a new set piece coach has been unable to improve anything at either end of the pitch is a huge failure this season.
If MGW had Lewis's ball striking ability he would be an elite level player. Sadly he doesn't.
 

Dino

Duncan McKenzie
We're just not very good. I really don't think we've progressed at all this season.

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Agree with you to an extent - the constant churn in players, volatility in performance and uncertainty - both on and off the pitch - hasn't helped. Along with the FFP sanctions much of it is down to off-field management which has a lot to answer for.
 

thereds66

First Team Squad
Id have taken a point before the game, but as always the way the game develops always makes you think differently. Luton away is notoriously a very difficult game this season for every team. But not losing, and stopping the negative rot we’ve been on is more important to me. LETS SEE IT AS A POSITIVE. Coyr
 

eyupmeduck

Geoff Thomas
I look at these things and can see why some would gain some postives but ultimately it means nothing because you realise we need to take advantage of it but probably wont.

At times like this I look at Forest, not other teams.

I just wished I had some confidence in us at this point.
Yes the huge flaw in the optimistic point i make is that we also need to pick up points.

Having a single striker fit and that single striker being Divock Origi means perhaps I'm starting to see the error of my ways already!

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Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Luton have scored in their last 16 Premier League games so it was always highly likely that we would need more than 1 goal to win, yet I fail to comprehend what Nuno sees in our defence that makes him try to change to a defensive setup in order to protect a 0-1 lead. We got exactly what we deserved by inviting the pressure.

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I genuinely question how much research he puts into stuff.

He missed the Niakate failure, he didn't think we needed a new keeper until the last week of the season, he's only playing Toffs coz Taveres is injured, he played all our best players for as many min as possible in poxy cup games, he has a set piece coach he doesn't use despite being awful at set pieces etc. add that to the point you made and it feels like he's only half arsing or has a complete lack of awareness it. I just don't get it.

Could be wrong like, but I just don't get how he keeps missing so much stuff. 🤷‍♂️

In retrospect, how did we even beat Newcastle and ManU with this team last year?? The holidays sure bring miracles.

I'd say it's down to a bunch of Mercs upping their game knowing that they needed to impress to keep their names and careers relevant. Marinakis has created a mercenary culture (he started it at Karanka tbf, but Murphs & Coops changed it). Football's Merc orientated anyway as we all know, but cycle players through a club like he does ours and you've no chance at building a feel-good factor. It works better at big clubs because those best players are the ultimate professionals, but not at clubs like ours where we do our best with lesser players. Marinakis is dumb and still hasn't grasped that after many years here. His money is a good fit for us, but not his ideals.
 

HBB

Jack Burkitt
Hearing Brian Laws voicing a string of random words on RN is like a throwback to Professor Stanley Unwin**.

**A name for the old 'uns on here.
Indeed it was Deep joy, deep joy looking like deliriocity at the prospectimo of 3 most important pointaveras at the finale blowy, blowy until the sad, sad aspecto of globalar disappoint to see the rotundo nestle most gravely at the rearapart of the crisscrossy catchy thing...
 

Browser79

First Team Squad
Brian Laws’ post match attempt at lucidity was its usual self until he stumbled upon the coherence to remind us that we’ve only got half of these players because they’ve failed to convince bigger clubs that they can be consistent in their performances. It’s a fair point. Elanga, CHO, Origi, MGW could all have that levelled at them. So we get patchy performances and results.

Par for us I think is stuttering form in the bottom half but never quite in danger. Like a Palace. There’s a multitude of mitigating factors to explain why we’re in the band below that, but overriding feeling for me is that we’re weaker than the sum of our parts. And that leaves a filthy taste in the mouth.
 

isaacs

Viv Anderson
I can't stress this point enough and somehow the general fanbase didn't receive the news...

Nuno....decided early on that we would not use Simon Rusk and that he trusted his coaches more to take care of set pieces. Simon Rusk is employed by us yet does not have a job to do because of Nunos decision.

Set pieces are on Nuno Espirito Santo. Despite the fact that in the little time in between Coops having Rusk appointed and Nuno coming in, the players were really enjoying working with him and seeing results.

Its on Nuno Espirito Santo.


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Brian Fantana

Viv Anderson
If MGW had Lewis's ball striking ability he would be an elite level player. Sadly he doesn't.
This is the weird thing isn’t it. We all know MGW has some amazing aspects to his game but he’s no Ward-Prowse with deliveries.

It’s been like that for ages now so why do we persist with him taking them. In that starting 11 today is he really the best we can do for taking corners? I’m just amazed we haven’t gave something, anything, else a go.
 

BryanRoy22

Ian Bowyer
If MGW had Lewis's ball striking ability he would be an elite level player. Sadly he doesn't.
Agree. Whenever McGugan would stride on to a bouncing ball on the half volley, the ball would always have a chance of hitting the target.

With MGW, you know straight away the ball is going to fly over the bar. If he could improve his ball striking, he'd be at Maddison's level.
 
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