youreds1986
Geoff Thomas
I don't disagree. I think the whole notion is flawed.
But if the league wants some financial control, clarity and to avoid lengthy and costly legal battles, I'm not sure there's another option
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But if the league wants some financial control, clarity and to avoid lengthy and costly legal battles, I'm not sure there's another option
Bobby The Brain
Weasel
Yeah very different setup, he elephant in the room is the lack of promotion/relegation. Each team has the same budget (i believe the owners can go slightly above it by paying a “tax”) and they trade players rather than buy them. Not sure how that would be possible with our pyramid set up.
There’s also the draft where in essence, the worst teams from the previous year get first dibs on youth players coming out of the college system.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
So you want promoted clubs to be allowed to make unsustainable punts so they can compete with sustainable mid-tier clubs?
Its like the rule man saw you coming.
No...
I want an equal-ish playing field.
PL: You can spend up to £120m a year.
+ Europa League: Add £40m
+ Champions League: Add £80m
Championship: £20m
+ Parachute Payments? Irrelevant, f*** off.
No 3 year trailing periods just, that's it, one year.
Something like that.
That means that no team can spend more than their means and it means those mid-table PL teams can't muscle their way out of trouble in any given season.
Redemption
One less gobshite...
At best, you'd lock-in the gap between the top and rest. Bottom 12 fighting it out for relegation and worse.
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
Controversial I know but if it were down to me I'd scrap FFP altogether and just let owners spend what they want
In my opinion it's far more important we reform the criteria under which people are allowed to own football clubs in the first place
Far too many highly unsuitable owners are being allowed to take over football clubs (I'm looking at you Newcastle) and the current "fit and proper person" test (or whatever it is) is a complete joke and achieves absolutely nothing
In my opinion it's far more important we reform the criteria under which people are allowed to own football clubs in the first place
Far too many highly unsuitable owners are being allowed to take over football clubs (I'm looking at you Newcastle) and the current "fit and proper person" test (or whatever it is) is a complete joke and achieves absolutely nothing
congo_red_49
Ale Ape
The risk of that approach being, if you rule out too many wealthy people/groups/countries, you potentially see clubs going out of business when their current owner needs to sell up and there are no viable buyers.
Mr. Blonde
Jack Burkitt
True, but no approach is without risks
Redemption
One less gobshite...
The EPL is probably very limited on what it can actually do here without subjecting itself to endless legal battles with oligarchs and sovereign wealth funds.
It's not that I'm unsympathetic to the moral argument, but it would be difficult to implement a legal framework.
And to be fair, the moral judgments are quite subjective.
The NFL salary cap does work. However it’s a different set up all together really. You rarely have transfers, you have the occasion player trade. So the salary cap charges are primarily driven by contract signing bonuses, amortised like transfer fees, and of course salaries.
There’s no threat of relegation too, so any penalties, which are rare, still leave you in the elite NFL group of 32 teams. Teams will routinely purge players from their squads to be compliant, not something common in Football, and you have things like the NFL draft which is another means to build squads.
congo_red_49
Ale Ape
There's also no competition from other Leagues.
If football were to have a salary cap it would have to be global - or the best players would just bugger off to the richest uncapped league.
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
I wonder if Robert Renan’s dad is called renan renan.
congo_red_49
Ale Ape
I'm getting bored of all these rerenans.
Raymondo Ponte'
It's all about mid-table...
Suspect Device
Youth Team
Hi Moddo's any chance of merging this tread with FFP thread on main forum?
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Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
I'd genuinely be quite happy for each club to be restricted to using players within a certain radius of the club, and no transfer fees allowed. Pipe dream I know, but it can't be any shitter than it is currently.
Listen 'ere young man
Jack Burkitt
If we are looking to offload McKenna and Worrall, must have someone lined up as only be down to Omobamidele, Murillo and Felipe as CBs during AFCON.
Redemption
One less gobshite...
It might be wiser to appeal to posters to transfer talk on this thread
* just as likely to be ignored
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
People talking about forest needing to offload surplus stock of players.
The names I've seen mentioned are not going to see any major cash being paid in, and as some are on decent contracts, only partially expired, there could be a net loss when we sell.
Of course, the salary bill would fall, but is there really a market to take:
Hennessey
Horvath
Worrall
McKenna
Aurier
Dennis
Arter
Panzo
Mbe soh
Mighten
Shelvey (G)
etc etc?
The names I've seen mentioned are not going to see any major cash being paid in, and as some are on decent contracts, only partially expired, there could be a net loss when we sell.
Of course, the salary bill would fall, but is there really a market to take:
Hennessey
Horvath
Worrall
McKenna
Aurier
Dennis
Arter
Panzo
Mbe soh
Mighten
Shelvey (G)
etc etc?
If only this Forum could offload unwanted, surplus, posters with the ease that many seem to think Forest can dump players!
Red Dog in a Forest
Viv Anderson
Bowler and Soh are on loan / out of contract in 2024. No chance there.
Arter and Horvath. Nope.
Hennessy, Aurier, Felipe, McKenna and Kouyate. Possibly, although difficult for any players to leave whilst on AFCON (surely).
G Shelvey needs a loan. J Shelvey needs to be told it’s not one.
Mighten, out of contract in 2025. Unlikely.
Dennis needs a loan, or to score a few for us. Someone might take a punt, doubtful in this window,
Worrall, yes.
If all those left in January, that’s £6m in wages alone.
I’d say yes for sure on these four, plus Kouyate.
Gyros Peter
Sauce salad?
Tickled me that!
Redemption
One less gobshite...
I'll have my agent get in touch.If only this Forum could offload unwanted, surplus, posters with the ease that many seem to think Forest can dump players!
Red Dog in a Forest
Viv Anderson
I honestly think that Forest are pretty good at it these days!If only this Forum could offload unwanted, surplus, posters with the ease that many seem to think Forest can dump players!
Notable exception: Arter.
Future exception: Dennis.
Special Award: Shelvey,
Cortez the Killer
Impressive member
Has Omar gone on just a loan or does it have an option to buy?If only this Forum could offload unwanted, surplus, posters with the ease that many seem to think Forest can dump players!
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