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Steve Cooper will always be the MAN!

It’s simple. Which side of the fence are you on?

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Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Calderwood wasn’t helped either when Julian Bennett, the defensive heartbeat of that side, limped out of that Doncaster game on Boxing Day having tried to play on, after rupturing a cruciate.

It seemed anything that could go wrong, did.
 
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'mist rollin in'

First Team Squad
Nuno has got a really tough job,
Mr. Blonde said:
In an attempt to sausage my sadness I'm framing this is a Calderwood-type sacking

ie. Cooper had taken us as far as he could and we've brought in someone better to first of all keep us up but then take us to the next level
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My concern is that the Owner thinks next level is becoming an 'elite club', whilst I admire this ambition, its not going to happen overnight. I just hope unrealistic expectations are tempered a bit
 
Shearstone

Shearstone

Misses the champ
'mist rollin in' said:
Nuno has got a really tough job,


My concern is that the Owner thinks next level is becoming an 'elite club', whilst I admire this ambition, its not going to happen overnight. I just hope unrealistic expectations are tempered a bit
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Yeah it's very unusual for the owner to have higher expectations than the fans.
 
Statto

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
ubik said:
And Cohen was the makeweight, as was Pearce when we signed a couple of players from Coventry!
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I think with Cohen there was the issue with the sell on clause to West Ham, whilst we clearly wanted both players, the joint deal made it easier for them to avoid paying that much on sell on by valuing Cohen as less than they would have got for him if they'd sold him to us without Davies.

Hard to say Calderwood wasn't backed after promotion either. We had been solid at the back and I think Smith kept a L1 record clean sheets when we went up. Like our promotion this time I suspect few thought it needed investment. He was given 3 new strikers (Earnshaw, Garner and Cole) though how much use the latter was... Along with Moussi who was a key player, and a couple of loans like Lee Martin, Joel Lynch and Paul Anderson.
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
Statto said:
I think with Cohen there was the issue with the sell on clause to West Ham, whilst we clearly wanted both players, the joint deal made it easier for them to avoid paying that much on sell on by valuing Cohen as less than they would have got for him if they'd sold him to us without Davies.

Hard to say Calderwood wasn't backed after promotion either. We had been solid at the back and I think Smith kept a L1 record clean sheets when we went up. Like our promotion this time I suspect few thought it needed investment. He was given 3 new strikers (Earnshaw, Garner and Cole) though how much use the latter was... Along with Moussi who was a key player, and a couple of loans like Lee Martin, Joel Lynch and Paul Anderson.
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The deal was structured to value Cohen at £200k, meaning the sell-on to West Ham was (significantly) less than it might have been had it been Cohen on his own (as in, his fee would certainly have been a potential seven figures).

A neat bit of creative accounting.
 
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Louth Red

First Team Squad
I posted my views on SC and his departure on this forum yesterday.

I will never forget his great contribution to our Club and the great days he delivered for us.

He understood our Club so well and created a great relationship with supporters. There are many untold stories of his acts for supporters and organisations which he undertook selflessly and without publicity.

It will tough attending forthcoming games without him at the helm.

However, as supporters we must support our Club and team on Saturday and thereafter.

Steve would not want it any other way.

There has been unnecessary division on this forum over recent months
- it is time to unite as supporters.

In the absence of Steve it is very important that we play our part in securing our PL place this season, and build for a brighter future.

I know it’s a tough ask as the great majority of match going Forest supporters did not want his departure.

BUT PLEASE GET BEHIND THE TEAM ON SATURDAY AND THEREAFTER

COYR
 
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MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
Strummer said:
The deal was structured to value Cohen at £200k, meaning the sell-on to West Ham was (significantly) less than it might have been had it been Cohen on his own (as in, his fee would certainly have been a potential seven figures).

A neat bit of creative accounting.
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Indeed it was, and our primary target was Cohen not Davies.
 
Shearstone

Shearstone

Misses the champ
Strummer said:
The deal was structured to value Cohen at £200k, meaning the sell-on to West Ham was (significantly) less than it might have been had it been Cohen on his own (as in, his fee would certainly have been a potential seven figures).

A neat bit of creative accounting.
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Funnily enough Cohen was in the Framebreakers in Rudd yesterday, I was pretty drunk drowning my sorrows over Cooper but he was as gentlemanly as ever. Hope he comes back to Forest in some capacity
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
LTLF Minion
shearstone said:
Funnily enough Cohen was in the Framebreakers in Rudd yesterday, I was pretty drunk drowning my sorrows over Cooper but he was as gentlemanly as ever. Hope he comes back to Forest in some capacity
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He still has a house in the village. And yes, he’s a genuinely lovely bloke.

I had a sort of nodding acquaintance with him (our kids used to be at the same school, back a few years ago) and it was the man himself who told me about the Davies-Cohen split deal from Yeovil (I think it was a total of £1.2m for the pair, but I may be wrong about that).
 
Shearstone

Shearstone

Misses the champ
Strummer said:
He still has a house in the village. And yes, he’s a genuinely lovely bloke.

I had a sort of nodding acquaintance with him (our kids used to be at the same school, back a few years ago) and it was the man himself who told me about the Davies-Cohen split deal from Yeovil (I think it was a total of £1.2m for the pair, but I may be wrong about that).
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I had thought he'd moved when he went on that south coast adventure with the Welsh twat but no still here in same house, though he was living down there. Seemed very happy even with my drunken interruption
 
Collymore!

Collymore!

Grenville Morris
Serge:

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SlabSquareHero

A. Trialist
I wonder if Cooper will keep his house in Nicker Hill Keyworth , like Dyche still has a property in Nottm— or whether we will see it listed on Rightmove in the coming weeks.
 
Omar Devone Little

Omar Devone Little

Mr Realistic
Alf-engelos Mindminackers said:
My point is though that you can't say "it's a results business" and then sack on form. As last year showed, form changes.
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What a bizarre statement. So basically no manager should ever be sacked in case the team's form improves? Surprised Megson isn't still here as surely Doughty should've realised there was a chance the team's form could improve, eventually.

And 1 win in 13 games goes a bit further than just 'form' I'd say. It's over a third of the season.
 
Alf-engelos Mindminackers

Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
Omar Devone Little said:
What a bizarre statement. So basically no manager should ever be sacked in case the team's form improves? Surprised Megson isn't still here as surely Doughty should've realised there was a chance the team's form could improve, eventually.

And 1 win in 13 games goes a bit further than just 'form' I'd say. It's over a third of the season.
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That's clearly your wrong interpretation of it and not what I'm saying.

But your someone who needs basic things explaining to them 4 or 5 time (such as chain of command and company hierarchy) before you remotely grasp them, and it's late, so I can't be arsed.
 
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Tricky Tourist

Tricky Tourist

Viv Anderson
Statto said:
1 win in 13 though.

I don't agree with us doing this, but that speaks for itself and shows potentially that Cooper can't turn it around, nor does he have a plan B without TA which doesn't involve retreating into a low block and a false 9.

We have made unbelievable progress under Cooper and for that we owe him a huge debt but the club is bigger than Cooper.

Calderwood took us up then struggled. You of all people don't need to be reminded of what happened next.

We are 5 points clear of the relegation zone and have Bournemouth next then Newcastle and Man Utd. If we lose all 3 and one of the bottom 3 wins 2 of those we will be in the relegation zone despite point 4,
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We'll never get to find out now though, and that's what's galling.
As for "the club is bigger than Cooper," have you considered that this cliche ought to be applied to the Greek egoist and his princeling, rather than Cooper? Whilst not to downplay Marinakis' crucial financial input after the Fawaz shambles, it was Coops who reanimated this moribund carcass of a club, helped it find its heart and soul again, and managed to uplift almost an entire city. With time - and real, strategic, coordinated backing - anything might have been possible under his management.
Honestly, after 45 years supporting Forest, I'm seriously struggling with this. The past three decades, largely characterized by the relentless self-sabotaging of grifters and crackpots who we as supporters have no control over, from Scholar/Wray, through Marthur, Fawaz, and now Marinakis, has been exhausting. But this is not like the usual managerial hiring and firing circus we've enjoyed over the years. This is different. If the Daniel Taylor article is even halfway accurate, and on the evidence I don't doubt it, then supporting the club is effectively supporting this owner and his narcissism. I manifestly do not agree with or support what he's done this week.
 
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isaacs

isaacs

Viv Anderson
I have to admit i laughed out loud to myself this evening having thought back to the story that was in Daniel Taylors article this morning - the random broken window after an apparent visit from the Big Man to inspect the summer work being done to the interior of the Peter Taylor stand

Its beyone fiction at this point, he's just like a Scorsese character. All thats missing is the Gimme Shelter intro music anytime he shows up. And he's our f***ing owner.
 
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