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Grenville Morris
Issue being that to give him more protection, it means Brennan dropping deeper, or a change in formation where one of the front three get dropped…
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Omar Devone Little
Mr Realistic
Williams will probably be OK for us next season but he'll never be a full back at this level IMO.
No stand out physical attributes, poor footballing brain and ordinary on the ball. £17m for him is an incredible bit of business...for Liverpool. To put it into context, using reported figures (transfermarkt) he cost us roughly the same as Aurier, Felipe, Niakhate, Boly and Toffolo combined.
No stand out physical attributes, poor footballing brain and ordinary on the ball. £17m for him is an incredible bit of business...for Liverpool. To put it into context, using reported figures (transfermarkt) he cost us roughly the same as Aurier, Felipe, Niakhate, Boly and Toffolo combined.
andover red
Geoff Thomas
Liability and I'm not convinced he'd be any better than adequate in the championship should we go down.
Brian Fantana
Viv Anderson
When you look at prices paid for some of the PLs best RBs it looks like we have overpaid pretty badly.
Dalot £19m
Trippier £12m
Tomiyasu £15.5m
Cash £16m
Castagne £18m
Walker £45m
Dalot £19m
Trippier £12m
Tomiyasu £15.5m
Cash £16m
Castagne £18m
Walker £45m
Cortez the Killer
Impressive member
Seeing as we seem unable to score more than 1 goal in a game, sacrificing attack to strengthen defence doesn't seem too outlandish to me.
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Red Ray's Redlist
Viv Anderson
He cost more than Villa paid us for Cash. Let that sink in.
Tobias
Jack Burkitt
GOBIAS
Ian Bowyer
You can spot at 2pm when his name is on the team sheet that he’s gonna get run ragged.
There was a poll on a different thread with reference to who was our worst signing of the summer ‘22. I don’t think there’s any doubt now who that is …. looking at that list above of full backs versus what we’ve paid for this guy makes me feel a little queasy. I thought / hoped there might be a player in there but the scouse bastards have had our trousers, pants and socks down with this lad I’m afraid.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Still think he might end up as a central midfielder and be okay there.
Thomas
AMERICAN IDIOT
I could see it, he’s not much of a defender at all. There was times where he’d play apart of the front three as a sub and he didn’t look any worst than being at right back.
Although he’s a bit like MGW where he can run past the ball or just plain lose control.
Thomas
AMERICAN IDIOT
I’m fine with that anyway, our away tactics don’t ever ever work so maybe we help our fullbacks for once.
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Bob Fossil
Nottingham's dirty secret
Yeh, he's lightweight, can't tackle & lacks positional awareness.
He'll fit right in.
In all honestly though- he doesn't have a single attribute that makes me think he'd make it as a central midfielder.
Not one.
Omar Devone Little
Mr Realistic
Agreed. One of his worst traits is a clear lack of footballing intelligence which sort of rules him out of central midfield. At a decent level it does anyway
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
He likes a tackle, is energetic, reasonably comfortable on the ball and has an OK cross. He has the attributes to play a mezzala type role (sorry to the oldies who hate these terms).
And moving him into central midfield and giving him that mezzala type role immediately removes his two biggest weaknesses on the pitch: Getting done at the back post by someone stronger and taller than him, and his complete inability to anticipate through balls.
If Williams can't teach himself to defend those through balls then he's never, never going to make it at the top level as a right back or right wing back and so there's no point continuing to position him there, and if that is the case, and considering we spent £17m on the lad, it's in our interest to explore whether he can be an asset in other positions, otherwise it's dead money we spent.
Edit: In terms of how that would work in a starting eleven, it'd be something like this (excuse liberally picking players not at the club to prove a point):
-------------------Navas-------------------
---Spence---Felipe---Niakhate---Lodi---
--------------------Rodri-------------------
----------Williams--------MGW-----------
--Scarpa-------------------------Grealish--
-------------------Awoniyi------------------
Just to clarify I'm not in any way saying this is the shape we need to adopt, just that if Williams can't improve his defending then this sort of role in a side is his natural progression.
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Centrocampista was always my favourite one.
Omar Devone Little
Mr Realistic
I rate him
Redemption
Agenda Benda
I'm now referring him as WbW from herein.
Haych
John Robertson
He needs a loan to the Champ for any year or two to develop.
Not everyone can go up the leagues easily like Brennan.
Not everyone can go up the leagues easily like Brennan.
Templeton
First Team Squad
That's my feeling on him as well. Needs a full season in the Championship to build his confidence up...and a full season in the gym to build himself up.
Omar Devone Little
Mr Realistic
I'm not sure we should be strengthening our rivals to be honest.
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Well said, I find it sad that people have to say the same things over and over again. I know it’s a forum but for fucks sake give it a rest. I am retired and cannot find the time to be on here,and yet I guess many on here are working ,well concentrate on your jobs Easter holidays start tomorrow.
Thomas
AMERICAN IDIOT
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Hope you get sacked then! By the sound of it you won’t be missed.