Home and Away Memberships 2023-24

Bonalair said:

Sounds like you think you speak for all the fans there?

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Not at all, I'm just saying what I see.


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Why must the NFST be an exclusive closed membership club?

It’s normal for people who have paid a ‘fee’ to expect something more than those who haven’t which naturally alienates others outside of the group.

Why not advertise or ask for voluntary contributions or raise what funds are needed to cover whatever the costs are for running such a group?

Why not open free of charge to all Forest supporters?

If you want the view of all Forest fans, you have to ask all Forest fans. I’ve never been asked by the NFSC for anything. Neither have I come across any social media inviting my opinion on any matter.

For me, the ‘Trust’ is reminiscent of the old supporters group who were managed by stubborn, self important volunteers with their own agenda rather than encouraging free and open debate across a far wider and broader cross section of the fanbase.

Nottingham Forest have evolved massively over the last 5 years and exciting and energetic groups like Forza are moving positively forwards gaining momentum and fan support.

They’re working on everyone’s behalf, and bloody hard too from what Louth says. You might not be the sort of person that wants to get involved in this sort of thing but I really don’t get the animosity.

Maybe it would help if you didn’t regard it as a private members group but a group trying to do its best and getting some funding from some fans who want to contribute to its aims. Then go about your own thing as normal. You don’t think they represent you? Set up a group yourself and put your own time in. And stop moaning about other people putting their time in.

Bonalair said:

They’re working on everyone’s behalf, and bloody hard too from what Louth says. You might not be the sort of person that wants to get involved in this sort of thing but I really don’t get the animosity.

Maybe it would help if you didn’t regard it as a private members group but a group trying to do its best and getting some funding from some fans who want to contribute to its aims. Then go about your own thing as normal. You don’t think they represent you? Set up a group yourself and put your own time in. And stop moaning about other people putting their time in.

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Is it not a private member's group?

You've got to hope for the sake of the 800 members of the Get along Gang that they are better at what ever it is they do in their secret clubhouse than they are at PR... cos this thread has been a bit of a disaster for them.



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Bonalair said:

Sounds like you think you speak for all the fans there?

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He may think that. But he isn't telling all the fans that he does and that they better like it or shut up and not dare question him otherwise he will have their opinions removed from the record.

And that is a personal opinion. Not speaking for anyone else.

Barry said:

You've got to hope for the sake of the 800 members of the Get along Gang that they are better at what ever it is they do in their secret clubhouse than they are at PR... cos this thread has been a bit of a disaster for them.

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Actually I think it isn't that bad to be honest.

They have taken some stick, some maybe warranted, some maybe not, but they have at least shown just how far they have progressed since their beginnings, which can only be a good thing for the wider fanbase to see.

Louth Red said:

Strummer please see post 777 - I’m still waiting and you have my details - perhaps you still have mountains of work but perhaps let me know.

I respect the work you and the other moderators do, and I had a fair exchange with one of the moderators recently and asked him to pass on my thanks. Maybe you’ve not seen it yet.

I always comply with Trust rules - not all our critics do, but perhaps like the the Trust Constitution they don’t bother to read it to find out the reasons, role and purpose; instead its easier to rely on dated perceptions.

Please don’t send out the message that we won’t speak to LTLF.

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I’ve never posted on here but have felt compelled to do so. I have no agenda or specific viewpoints on the trust, prior to this season. The new away membership scheme has been an unfair and unworkable scheme, and as the club have been in liaison with the trust on this. I attended 17 games last year and have failed to have my loyalty recongnised. I was mildly angry about this, but that has quadrupled in the past week with the Forza article. It feels that the trust have failed to stick up for the supporters on this and have sided with the club so not to bite the hand that feeds them.

Some points:

1) The club claimed to have done extensive research on other clubs in coming up with the scheme even though it bears no comparison to any other scheme in a PL club most of which reward previous seasons loyalty and has provisions such as ballots for the rest. In a previous post you told us that you qualified for the 400 club, well deserved by the way, but told us the scheme was the fairest possible and effectively for us all to “suck it up”. You should be defending those several hundred members who if they supported any other club would have been guaranteed a ticket rather than the “I’m alright Jack” attitude. What has the trust done to challenge this “research” that the club has supposedly done and short changed several hundred supporters?
2) The logic behind the scheme that the trust published that will apparently lead us all to re-think the scheme with its “data led approach” was exactly the same (copied and pasted) blurb that went out in reply to those who emailed the club when this scheme was announced . You also parroted the stat that 50% of members went to less than 10 games. What about the people who went to between 10 and 17 games why have the club never acknowledged them in their any of their arguments. Instead of accepting the status quo why don’t the trust challenge this?
3) The over subscription of away memberships has led to a bloodbath when tickets go on sale. This is not Ticketmaster’s fault as too many people are trying to access tickets at the same time. Again, the Trust was keen to point out Ticketmaster as the villain here. It’s a terrible experience buying tickets and has led to resentment. Again, what had the trust done to challenge this?

There are even more issues such as transparency on where certain tickets go which the play off game at Brammal Lane highlights.

This is not personal against you (you come across as a nice guy) and I commend some of the work that the trust does in the community, but I can’t help feeling that the the one time we really needed you ( the trust that is not you personally) you did nothing but act as a mouthpiece to just relay spin, which in this case of away memberships is full of baffling logic and a lack of fairness

Sorry, but actions speak much louder than words. Despite assurances on the website, there is no queue on the ticket site 30 mins before the 10 o’clock mad dash begins. People will still get kicked out with tickets in their baskets, have to sit separately as they can’t get two together, or more likely just give up after hours of trying. The club (don’t blame Ticketmaster, we aren’t their fans), have had two weeks since the WHU tickets went on sale to sort this out and appear to have done nothing. For the playoff final, there was a queue, seats could be selected as a group, and although it was not perfect, it was still Ticketmaster, so it is clear we could at least have the same for us.

Is anyone else just logging on and off in case a queue randomly starts?

System is rubbish. I had three tickets in my basket which disappeared. Not sure why it's different to buying concert tickets. Not happy. Looks like the £30 for membership is a con.

It was a con, there are probably only ever going to be a few hundred seats when Bronze goes on sale. Every game is like playing the Crystal Maze end game but with very few golden tickets flying in the air. Silver members look like they will be ok every time (for just a tenner more), so the club needs to do something quickly to find a way to make 5000 disenfranchised fans feel like they have a chance (apply in advance for a handful of tickets / ballot / take it in turns, anything other than what we have). The right thing to do is to refund the £30 to all bronze members. In the grand Premier League scheme of things £150,000 is not worth pissing everyone off for.

I really thought I would be able to get a single anywhere on the ground for a Sunday televised stupid ko time game. Alas, my chocolate fireguard membership looking worse value by the week….


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Master Yates said:

I really thought I would be able to get a single anywhere on the ground for a Sunday televised stupid ko time game. Alas, my chocolate fireguard membership looking worse value by the week….


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There are so few tickets for Bronze that within a second of them going on sale, all available seats are selected. It's fantastic that the club will sell out every game this season, but they knew before ripping off 5000 fans that would happen, and if not, whoever is in charge of ticketing needs to be gone.

What we really need is an organisation of fans who actually hold the club's feet to the fire. It's all very well to have access to the club and ask them questions, but there doesn't appear to be any pressure put on the club after it has answered a question. No supplementary questions asking why they took that action. The club give the answers which suit them and they consider adequate and that is that.

What we need is a trade union of fans, not a cosy association with the club. By all means work with them, but be stridently independent. The ticketing system is, from frequent quotes on here from actual cases, not working to benefit fans. The club is only interested in selling tickets, who gets them is immaterial. What is being done to improve the sales?

Whilst success on the field is the prime consideration, spending £20 million on a player seems absurd when fans can't get to see that player. Why not syphon some of the money to pay for an inhouse system instead of the generic Ticketmaster system which robs the club of any direct involvement?

I realise that these comments might be completely wide of the mark, but that is the fault of the club and the Trust who don't communicate adequately or frequently enough with fans. I've said it before, secrecy at football clubs could teach GCHQ a thing or two.

I think my only hope of getting any sort of tickets relies on Tickets for troops. Yes they're in the Home end and I feel slightly guilty stealing the chance of an home team supporter. I've also contacted TFT to change our name to Nottm Forest

I think my only hope of getting any sort of tickets relies on Tickets for troops. Yes they're in the Home end and I feel slightly guilty stealing the chance of a home supporter. also contacted TFT about the name faux pas

Managed to get one for Spurs (H) but the system tried it's best not to let me. Checked after purchase for what was spare and it was 1 seat in Upper BC at 10:05....

TrentEndDr said:

Managed to get one for Spurs (H) but the system tried it's best not to let me. Checked after purchase for what was spare and it was 1 seat in Upper BC at 10:05....

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I think anyone who gets a ticket when Bronze go on sale should be held up as a hero, well done!

For WHU I went back online after about an hour to find 50 seats had been released in BC Upper block N (according to the ticket office, these had been held back for "security reasons"??). I got three separate seats, so am hoping some kind people can budge along up or down a bit to facilitate!

Some good points put by all sides in the above debate.

Whilst demand is always going to outstrip supply, its quite obvious that the membership scheme is flawed. Ticketmaster has been appalling and on both counts, all Supporters groups need to be holding the club to account, and pressing for immediate change.

Seems to me that the club & the trust are now lying low & hoping the whole membership / ticket fiasco will just become chip paper.
Its the responsibility of everyone to hold them to account in order that this totally unacceptable & unworkable system be ditched.

Tickets for Troops, I can't complain about that at all.

In fact I'd like to see Tickets for Veterans, please.

RedRobbo said:

Seems to me that the club & the trust are now lying low & hoping the whole membership / ticket fiasco will just become chip paper.
Its the responsibility of everyone to hold them to account in order that this totally unacceptable & unworkable system be ditched.

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It's not going to go away and It can't get worse, so it should be easy for the club to come out and say we will do a,b,c to at least salvage something from the mess, unless they really, really don't give a ****

valspoodle said:

Tickets for Troops, I can't complain about that at all.

In fact I'd like to see Tickets for Veterans, please.

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Didn’t Mark Crossley get free tickets and hospitality last weekend?

valspoodle said:

Tickets for Troops, I can't complain about that at all.

In fact I'd like to see Tickets for Veterans, please.

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Does it count if you were in the boy scouts?