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Steve Cooper will always be the MAN!

It’s simple. Which side of the fence are you on?

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Redemption

Redemption

Chief Eye Roller
At this point, I'm only contemplating boycotting it, but I also feel that it's closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.

I'm looking at what good options there are to raise the issues and what I can do around that.

But, at the moment, I'm not really seeing much beyond criticism of media personalities.
 
Eddie Yates

Eddie Yates

Steve Chettle
Redemption said:
At this point, I'm only contemplating boycotting it, but I also feel that it's closing the stable door after the horse has bolted.

I'm looking at what good options there are to raise the issues and what I can do around that.

But, at the moment, I'm not really seeing much beyond criticism of media personalities.
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Thing is Red it's those media personalities that have the biggest voice yet they're choosing mainly to stay quiet

Lots have media folk have been very vocal & instrumental in highlighting diversity issues ect over the last few years but are quiet on this issue which I find strange

It's almost as if it's all being swept under the carpet & come this time next season Sky/BBC/ITV will have the rainbow graphic in the corner of the screen again
 
Redemption

Redemption

Chief Eye Roller
I appreciate what you're saying, but those media personalities, like Linaker, are usually talking shit about eco-crisis and specific rights that are at best indirectly linked to what they do.

Them saying something about Qatar wont make the BBC boycott the World Cup.

There is certain hypocrisy, or at least cowardice, in it. But making them the focus of criticism doesn't change the big picture. In fact, I think some of the criticism just gets lost in the general babbling around them . So the antagonism doesn't look like part of the Qatar discourse but the general anti-personality stuff that is about at the moment.

Linaker only has to fart for a Twitter pile-on calling him a methane hypocrite.

I feel the need for something meatier, but it seems elusive.
 
Battered Sausage

Battered Sausage

Matchday Squad
Redemption said:
I appreciate what you're saying, but those media personalities, like Linaker, are usually talking shit about eco-crisis and specific rights that are at best indirectly linked to what they do.

Them saying something about Qatar wont make the BBC boycott the World Cup.

There is certain hypocrisy, or at least cowardice, in it. But making them the focus of criticism doesn't change the big picture. In fact, I think some of the criticism just gets lost in the general babbling around them . So the antagonism doesn't look like part of the Qatar discourse but the general anti-personality stuff that is about at the moment.

Linaker only has to fart for a Twitter pile-on calling him a methane hypocrite.

I feel the need for something meatier, but it seems elusive.
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Meatier ? A concerted , unified effort by a large group of fans that will boycott all goods that advertise during the World Cup. Can’t see it happening though.


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Redemption

Redemption

Chief Eye Roller
Tiff said:
Meatier ? A concerted , unified effort by a large group of fans that will boycott all goods that advertise during the World Cup. Can’t see it happening though.


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That's the same with a boycott. It will be minimal and probably ineffective.

I suppose for me, the question is how can you create something that people can engage with publically and allow for them to support their team.

Building on your idea, is how to link all the Qatar shit to all the shit the sponsors do.

Football is two worlds - the corporate one, and the fan one.

Perhaps for another day.
 
Eddie Yates

Eddie Yates

Steve Chettle
Redemption said:
I appreciate what you're saying, but those media personalities, like Linaker, are usually talking shit about eco-crisis and specific rights that are at best indirectly linked to what they do.

Them saying something about Qatar wont make the BBC boycott the World Cup.

There is certain hypocrisy, or at least cowardice, in it. But making them the focus of criticism doesn't change the big picture. In fact, I think some of the criticism just gets lost in the general babbling around them . So the antagonism doesn't look like part of the Qatar discourse but the general anti-personality stuff that is about at the moment.

Linaker only has to fart for a Twitter pile-on calling him a methane hypocrite.

I feel the need for something meatier, but it seems elusive.
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I'm not expecting a boycott as it's gone well beyond that, Lineker has actually spoken out but will still be going as the BCCs main presenter

The focus of the criticism really should fall at the feet of the corrupt greedy FIFA fat cats who made the decision in 2010 to give the WC to a country with such medieval values however these media hypocrites such as Lineker should not be immune from criticism especially those that are quick to put their head above the parapet (on twitter obviously) to champion the rights of minorities (which is to be comended) yet don't seem to have a negative opinion on 6000 dead slaves & I can't understand
 
valspoodle

valspoodle

Steve Chettle
I generally only watch England games for more than 50% of the game. Most others in these tournaments I watch the first ten minutes and the last ten minutes.

So I shall claim a semi boycott. I doubt anybody of any importance in football will boycott the tournament. Qatar is there, it's got lots of money and will deal with those it likes, so there will be many people hanging around for the loose cash from the table.

The fact that we administered the area when it was a Trucial State is neither here nor there these days, they've grown up and do what they like, no matter what we say.
 
Malmo79

Malmo79

A. Trialist
Redemption said:
That's the same with a boycott. It will be minimal and probably ineffective.

I suppose for me, the question is how can you create something that people can engage with publically and allow for them to support their team.

Building on your idea, is how to link all the Qatar shit to all the shit the sponsors do.

Football is two worlds - the corporate one, and the fan one.

Perhaps for another day.
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Problem is, people are generally lazy and apathetic. Happy to bitch and moan, but not actually going to do something to make their own life more uncomfortable in most cases - like a sustained boycott of brands and goods...

Very few people stand by their principles and most cave-in or soon get bored as a small minority response is totally insignificant to those who gain from the events.

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weejockmcplop

Geoff Thomas
Malmo79 said:
Problem is, people are generally lazy and apathetic. Happy to bitch and moan, but not actually going to do something to make their own life more uncomfortable in most cases - like a sustained boycott of brands and goods...

Very few people stand by their principles and most cave-in or soon get bored as a small minority response is totally insignificant to those who gain from the events.

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Boycotting brands and goods is beneficial for whoever is being boycotted.
It always draws extra attention to their brand and usually the people boycotting don't take it seriously in private at all.
There's some great examples of this recently. Nike comes to mind. And there was a coffee machine.
 
mister

mister

First Team Squad
"There are a number of emotions," said Cooper, whose side begin the new campaign at Newcastle on Saturday.

"There is excitement and everyone is looking forward to the challenge of the Premier League, it has been a long time coming.

"There is focus. We are under no illusions and it will be incredibly tough, game in, game out. Everyone is trying to get as prepared as possible. We have to believe in our work, ourselves. If we don't then why should anyone else?

"You have to try to thrive off the challenge. So many players and staff work to try to get an opportunity in the Premier League. We don't want to have negative emotions going into it.

"We really believe in our work - what we can do - and that we can be more than a good match against any opponent. We will have that approach and other objectives internally."

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Forest must thrive on Premier League test - Cooper

Nottingham Forest must "thrive off the challenge" of playing in the Premier League for the first time in 23 years and not have "negative emotions" going into it, says manager Steve Cooper.
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Raymondo Ponte'

Raymondo Ponte'

It's all about mid-table...
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Des's dirty Y-fronts

First Team Squad
Steve Cooper personifies everything I love about this club. Much like Psycho did when I was a yoof. As soon as we won promotion my dad said the most important signing of the summer would be Steve Cooper on a lengthy contract. My old man isn't wrong. Unfortunately, by my nature, I'm going to be twitchy until he's signed. He's so important to the future success of the club. Just hoping after a late flurry in the transfer window the club announces it as a massive f***ing cherry on top!
 
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Des's dirty Y-fronts

First Team Squad
Yeah he interviews brilliantly. I actually quoted Steve Cooper in a job interview about 6 months ago and got the job! "I'm very clear on my leadership style. I'm not one for criticising people, I prefer to foster a supportive environment, but that doesn't mean you can't be challenging or demanding of people - that makes for a high performance culture" ... Was looking the interview panel in the eye thinking you've got no f***ing idea that I'm quoting Steve Cooper!
 
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