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Future of the WFCG? What‘s your preference?


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Strummer

Es gibt nur einen
LTLF Minion
I feel people are overlooking that Nottingham is the city of caves. Get a subterranean network of tunnels connected-up, and with Nottingham's mining history we should be able to set-up a pulley cart system like in the Great Escape. Park-up all over city, and get pulled-off to the match without getting wet.

Additional, the caves will be perfect for cheese storage, once the cheese room opens in the new stand.
Manriding conveyors directly into the WFCG?

I’m interested!
 

FLC

Viv Anderson
A flotilla of pedalos is what’s needed. Moor them at Trent Basin and tie them outside the Trent End during the match
What about a fleet of inflatable bananas towed behind a speedboat. That would be f***ing brilliant.
 

Tnewton_1988

Jack Armstrong
Regarding the traffic situation, if they’re going to close Trent Bridge for an hour after the game. Victoria embankment & Canal Street had to be opened up to through traffic. This will filter traffic through the city towards A52/Queens Drive/Clifton Bridge for motorway traffic. If they don’t the city centre will become an absolute gridlock around London Rd junction.
 

Lee

Lurker of shadows
Seriously guys, give this up.

You've got more chance of Montanier coming back as player/coach.
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
Regarding the traffic situation, if they’re going to close Trent Bridge for an hour after the game. Victoria embankment & Canal Street had to be opened up to through traffic. This will filter traffic through the city towards A52/Queens Drive/Clifton Bridge for motorway traffic. If they don’t the city centre will become an absolute gridlock around London Rd junction.
So like normal then
 

Lady Penelope

Viv Anderson
Serious now. EMCCA are supportive of using the river in any way possible. The shift away from cars in cities is inevitable, although the investment in alternatives in not there yet (by a long way). I wonder if the County Hall situation, should the people in charge there ever make up their minds. could be a catalyst for further regeneration in the area, and thus for the river? To my mind the usual chatter about apartments, hotels, restaurants and bars is lazy. Hospitality isn struggling and will continue to do so under cos of living pressures. What could go on the County Hall site? A proper concert venue, a big one (think Co-op Live) rather than relying on the Ice Stadium which is not the best in any aspect bar size.

So, Forest, other events at the WFCg, a big concert venue, Trent Bridge, Meadow Lane, Racecourse ... a boat service would not move thousands of people, but as part of a package involving some hospitality (not including Carling or Madri), it would add to the mix and maybe could be viable. Maybe.

It's nice to have nice dreams on a warm day.
 

Chairman Mo

First Team Squad
What would help would be another footbridge over the river from The Trent End to one of those side streets off Meadow Lane. It would reduce that bottleneck up at Trent Bridge post match.
You're right but the last one took seven years from initial planning.
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
What would help would be another footbridge over the river from The Trent End to one of those side streets off Meadow Lane. It would reduce that bottleneck up at Trent Bridge post match.
If they didn't direct people onto LBB and then also likewise with TB and instead used the suspension bridge and the new bridge instead it would probably help.

The next bridge has to be a road one and then probably TB could be closed or limited.

I think you can also cross the A60 under the bridge which would help again if people needed to get to the other side, not having to cross with traffic.
 

Lady Penelope

Viv Anderson
The club know that stadium development must lead to increased income, both on matchdats and non-match days. That's how Spurs are able to splash the cash (Fernandez, Tonali, Summerville perhaps?). Forest have done well in increasing revenue since promotion but there is still a long way to go.

They are on it!
 

YellowBelly Red

Jack Armstrong
The decisions, and the money involved, around this are absolutely huge.

I've always said that it needs a multi-agency approach, maybe under the direction of Claire Ward and Nottingham MPs.

This involves Councils, Highways, Railways, Buses, the Tram, the club, residents groups.

With a billion pound incoming investment, I would want to see ways and decisions on how this is going to get done. How this will benefit everyone. I don't want to hear "yeah but". I want to hear "let's do it".

If stuff needs knocking down, knock it down. Relocate businesses if needed. Have a joined up and costed plan, that will benefit ALL of Nottingham and the surrounding area.

This is a once in a generation moment. Make it work.
 
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Wes' Organ

Biggles
As I have proposed numerous times before; giant catapults (nay, trebuchets) on the north bank of the Trent, are the answer to this conundrum.

"Step right up, and be propelled directly into the stadium with no effort on your part!" *





* no claims for broken bones will be accepted
Not even in top 10 of madness for this thread, I've reported half a dozen of the mad bastards to the authorities just in case they slip out unnoticed.
 

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
I wonder if the County Hall situation, should the people in charge there ever make up their minds. could be a catalyst for further regeneration in the area, and thus for the river? To my mind the usual chatter about apartments, hotels, restaurants and bars is lazy. Hospitality isn struggling and will continue to do so under cos of living pressures. What could go on the County Hall site? A proper concert venue, a big one (think Co-op Live) rather than relying on the Ice Stadium which is not the best in any aspect bar size.
I don't make a habit of praising the Tories, but their decision to vacate County Hall and move to a smaller, purpose-built, environmentally-friendly new-build near Hucknall was a sensible one prior to them losing control of the County Council to Reform who, immediately reversed the decision. For a party that boasts about removing waste and excess to reduce costs for the taxpayer, mothballing the new building in order to continue working - and purely because of its faded prestige - in one that is no longer financially sustainable to an almost criminal extent was crass and stupid. The place probably needs demolishing or, at best, needs millions spent on it to make it viable. I wouldn't trust a Reform council to do anything that favours any other entity or organisation other than itself.
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
I don't make a habit of praising the Tories, but their decision to vacate County Hall and move to a smaller, purpose-built, environmentally-friendly new-build near Hucknall was a sensible one prior to them losing control of the County Council to Reform who, immediately reversed the decision. For a party that boasts about removing waste and excess to reduce costs for the taxpayer, mothballing the new building in order to continue working - and purely because of its faded prestige - in one that is no longer financially sustainable to an almost criminal extent was crass and stupid. The place probably needs demolishing or, at best, needs millions spent on it to make it viable. I wouldn't trust a Reform council to do anything that favours any other entity or organisation other than itself.
There were a few more factors there presumably.

With hybrid/WFH patterns in place during the pandemic era a lot of places presumably decided to downsize office space when they had the opportunity, with those patterns staff are also in the office less than they would be if they were permanently working there full time.

County Hall is a large, old building and presumably has ongoing maintenance needs. It's not central on the county picture, but it is easy to get to where more of the population is (as Nottm is very much towards the south of Notts).

Lining these ducks up we have
- less need for office space to be worked from all the time, meaning a smaller building would do
- a new building would be a significant outlay but would reduce the need to keep throwing money at an older one for at least a few years
- people were mainly working from home so there wasn't the need to have an office close to the workforce
- so as a result the potential workforce is widened because you could hire people from the north of the county or outside like in Retford or Worksop and because the only obligation was the odd day in the office you didn't need them to travel to Trent Bridge every day

Then RFUK who hate WFH (so another group of management that feels you have to breathe down staff's necks so they can be intimidated into working) end it all, and then realise they can't get Nottm based staff to Hucknall as easily as they can get them to Nottm, and presumably it would be too much of a hiring exercise to replace everyone anyway, nor would there likely be enough space for RTO anyway, so back it comes
 

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
There were a few more factors there presumably.

With hybrid/WFH patterns in place during the pandemic era a lot of places presumably decided to downsize office space when they had the opportunity, with those patterns staff are also in the office less than they would be if they were permanently working there full time.

County Hall is a large, old building and presumably has ongoing maintenance needs. It's not central on the county picture, but it is easy to get to where more of the population is (as Nottm is very much towards the south of Notts).

Lining these ducks up we have
- less need for office space to be worked from all the time, meaning a smaller building would do
- a new building would be a significant outlay but would reduce the need to keep throwing money at an older one for at least a few years
- people were mainly working from home so there wasn't the need to have an office close to the workforce
- so as a result the potential workforce is widened because you could hire people from the north of the county or outside like in Retford or Worksop and because the only obligation was the odd day in the office you didn't need them to travel to Trent Bridge every day

Then RFUK who hate WFH (so another group of management that feels you have to breathe down staff's necks so they can be intimidated into working) end it all, and then realise they can't get Nottm based staff to Hucknall as easily as they can get them to Nottm, and presumably it would be too much of a hiring exercise to replace everyone anyway, nor would there likely be enough space for RTO anyway, so back it comes
Sorry Statto, but you've used too many acronyms/abbreviations for my tiny brain to have even a remote clue as to what you're on about?

As far as I'm aware a thorough feasibility study was carried out before it was decided to proceed with that new-build, and any suggestion that Reform stayed put solely for the sake of the existing staff who work there is laughable in my opinion.
 
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Shearstone

Derby delenda est
Sorry Statto, but you've used too many acronyms/abbreviations for my tiny brain to have even a remote clue as to what you're on about?

As far as I'm aware a thorough feasibility study was carried out before it was decided to proceed with that new-build, and any suggestion that Reform stayed put solely for the sake of the existing staff who work there is laughable in my opinion.
I thought Statto made a clear case.

Reform didn't do it for the staff's sake really. Hybrid and remote working means you have less staff in the office at any one time and as such as you can have a smaller office. Reform hate Work from home because they think it's skiving and plays to their boomer base who can't fathom change from "back in their day". As the new office wouldn't allow them to scrap work from home and fit everyone in, they decided to stay in the current building that can fit all the current staff in.
 

Chairman Mo

First Team Squad
I thought Statto made a clear case.

Reform didn't do it for the staff's sake really. Hybrid and remote working means you have less staff in the office at any one time and as such as you can have a smaller office. Reform hate Work from home because they think it's skiving and plays to their boomer base who can't fathom change from "back in their day". As the new office wouldn't allow them to scrap work from home and fit everyone in, they decided to stay in the current building that can fit all the current staff in.
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Statto

Free Kick Specialist
Sorry Statto, but you've used too many acronyms/abbreviations for my tiny brain to have even a remote clue as to what you're on about?

As far as I'm aware a thorough feasibility study was carried out before it was decided to proceed with that new-build, and any suggestion that Reform stayed put solely for the sake of the existing staff who work there is laughable in my opinion.
RFUK = Reform UK
Hybrid working = Mixture of working from home and days in the office usually at the employer's behest, usually about half weeks at home and half weeks in the office on set days
WFH = Work from home
RTO = Return to office (when employers are mandating employers who WFH to come back in the office either more than typical hybrid working or full time)

The new build worked for the lower demand to work in the office, but when they wanted to end work from home there wasn't the space and presumably most staff couldn't either get to Hucknall on public transport or didn't want to when they have more office space available closer. So it's not "solely for the existing staff" who I imagine would prefer to work from home

More a change of policy at the top
 
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