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[Lady Penelope]

The planning documents identify the opening times of the P and R's at Queens Drive and Racecourse as something that will need to be sorted, by which I assume they mean keep them open for longer, that's along with a host of other things (times of last trains, and to a lesser extent trams and buses too).

I really like the river ferry idea, however ... there will be odd times when it simply cannot run due to the flow of the Trent. For a few days every year the river is so high and so fast that not only is the underpass at Trent Bridge impassable, Queens Drive P and R is out of bounds as well.

There was once a ferry from The Hook to Colwick Park apparently. Some enterprising young soul with a boat could make a few bob there on match days (once the planning, safety and insurances have been taken into account)!

Regarding the old petrol station on the corner of Pavilion Rd and Radcliffe Rd, I believe that Forest have owned that site for a number of years. There was surveying activity of sorts on there last week as I walked past.

 

[Br1an01]

Brighton do this, so it's possible here too!

Newcastle season ticket holders and members can buy a "Magpie Mover" travel pass for £25 per season. Valid on local bus, Metro, certain local rail routes and even the Tyne ferry for 3 hours before and after the game, including cup matches.
In my view, a great option at a sensible price.

 

[Indored]

The idea of grabbing a ferry and getting dropped off outside the ground is brilliant, only club to do that I would think.
Also think the costs would be steep, so probably a non starter also for the above mentioned reasons.

Would be mega cool though, Red and white boats turning up with Forest flags flying.

Could do it for the away fans too and send them the opposite way….

 

[Notcher]

That Forest Ferry idea is all good in dreamland but I cannot see how our own setup would be feasible in practice. It would only be used once every couple of weeks. Maybe a bit more with other events but certainly not a regular requirement. How many boats? Who would cover the costs? Boats aren't cheap to hire, or buy and maintain. Then you have to find somewhere to moor them out of hours and pay for that, sort insurance, and get operating licences for each. Also have to find and pay drivers with appropriate licences to take so many passengers. It is the sort of thing EM might throw money at but it's an operation that someone would need to foot the continuous losses on, and EM won't be around forever to commit to that.

The only way I could see something like this working is to hire the boats that already operate passenger trips in the area. Even then you can't reserve them well in advance because of the late PL match changes for TV. Is it worth it to move a few hundred fans at most?

Also, where is a boat going to collect and drop off for Clifton P&R?

I think you have to have some vision as to what the area could become. That entire area could become entirely regenerated and one which attracts many more bars and restaurants with other attractions. The boats could easily be hired out on none matchdays. I would imagine that at a fiver a pop for park and ride would generate good income on a matchday and for the other days another company could pay forest themselves to have an operating lease.

Let's not forget that Marinakis owns one of the biggest shipping companies on the planet. Maybe the EA building and land is part of this thought process for mooring and storage? If he can successfully own and operate his massive shipping empire I'm more than confident he has the nouse to figure out how to run a couple of dozen small river taxis.

We have to get out of this linear thinking mentality and do some things differently. I'm sure the big fella has got a much grander plan to all this.

 

[king_congo_red]

We have to get out of this linear thinking mentality and do some things differently. I'm sure the big fella has got a much grander plan to all this.

 

[Notcher]

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Now we're f*cking talking

 

[Otis Redding]

They did run a bus from Queens Drive a few years ago. I think it was £2?
It was a nightmare getting the bus back from outside the Embankment pub though.
Dont think it lasted the whole season!

Back when there was a shuttle bus service in the 60s and into the 70s, after the final whistle the buses queued around the corner, just outside the Trent Embankment gates, opposite the toilet block.

 

[Timothy Pope]

A flotilla of pedalos is what’s needed. Moor them at Trent Basin and tie them outside the Trent End during the match

 

[YellowBelly Red]

The idea of boats ferrying fans against the flow of the Trent is rather for the birds. Not sure how you would get the necessary safety certificates, especially as the majority of the trips could be in the dark.

Given that the Trent is in flood for a few weeks in the winter isn't going to help any cause either.

 

[vertigored]

The idea of boats ferrying fans against the flow of the Trent is rather for the birds. Not sure how you would get the necessary safety certificates, especially as the majority of the trips could be in the dark.

Given that the Trent is in flood for a few weeks in the winter isn't going to help any cause either.

Hovercrafts would be easier to use you’re right

 

[Notcher]

The idea of boats ferrying fans against the flow of the Trent is rather for the birds. Not sure how you would get the necessary safety certificates, especially as the majority of the trips could be in the dark.

Given that the Trent is in flood for a few weeks in the winter isn't going to help any cause either.

The same way that princess river cruises do on the Trent which also operate at night.

 

[Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD.]

Yeah, right.

BBC NEWS | England | Pleasure cruiser hits bridge

The level of non-starter for this idea is pretty obvious.

Just the required insurance (for about 20 days a year) would blow this out of the water.

 

[Lady Penelope]

Yeah, right.

BBC NEWS | England | Pleasure cruiser hits bridge

The level of non-starter for this idea is pretty obvious.

Just the required insurance (for about 20 days a year) would blow this out of the water.

The big idea is that the river ferries / taxis would not just be for Forest games. Is there enough demand for everyday use? I don't think so but it could change if enough other things change. Nottingham is not Stockholm, Amsterdam or London, and the river does not flow through the city centre, but if the Sports Quarter / entertainment sector idea can be sufficiently developed, then boats could be a part of the package of public transport alternatives available. It's different, it's fun, it's a USP. The remaining ferry service on the Tyne, between North and South Shields, is by and of itself a tourist attraction.

It's a long shot for the Trent but I would not entirely rule it out at this stage.

 

[reddog8000]

For the journey to the ground we need a pirate ship, with the big man standing on the bow dressed as Black Beard and waving a sword.

And rather than sacking manager's they should be forced to walk the plank.

 

[Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD.]

A long shot or pie in the sky.

We once had a works do on the Nottingham Princess. The most boring afternoon of my life, would rather have been back at work.

 

[Notcher]

Yeah, right.

BBC NEWS | England | Pleasure cruiser hits bridge

The level of non-starter for this idea is pretty obvious.

Just the required insurance (for about 20 days a year) would blow this out of the water.

As pointed out it the operation lease could be sold to another businesses to run on other days. Princess cruises already operate and have done for a long time. There's every opportunity for it to work.

 

[uredsuns]

Also, where is a boat going to collect and drop off for Clifton P&R?

With how often it floods, it could well be right in the middle of the car park.

 

[uredsuns]

As pointed out it the operation lease could be sold to another businesses to run on other days. Princess cruises already operate and have done for a long time. There's every opportunity for it to work.

How much does Nottingham Princess charge per passenger? I bet it is more than £3 per person each way which is what current public transport in Nottingham charges

 

[Notcher]

How much does Nottingham Princess charge per passenger? I bet it is more than £3 per person each way which is what current public transport in Nottingham charges

No idea. But if the journeys are more frequent and there's a lot of people like on a matchday the cost can be a lot lower

 

[uredsuns]

No idea. But if the journeys are more frequent and there's a lot of people like on a matchday the cost can be a lot lower

So an unknown cost which could come down if a market that isn't there uses it more is the solution?

What about when there is racing on at the racecourse and Queens Drive is closed due to flooding.

Where would the pier be at the City Ground for it? Because it cant be next to it due to the footfall behind the Trent End already so away from the ground you are already half way to one or the other.

 

[Wes' Organ]

You lot will be the fukcing death of me!

 

[Trents]

The big idea is that the river ferries / taxis would not just be for Forest games. Is there enough demand for everyday use? I don't think so but it could change if enough other things change. Nottingham is not Stockholm, Amsterdam or London, and the river does not flow through the city centre, but if the Sports Quarter / entertainment sector idea can be sufficiently developed, then boats could be a part of the package of public transport alternatives available. It's different, it's fun, it's a USP. The remaining ferry service on the Tyne, between North and South Shields, is by and of itself a tourist attraction.

It's a long shot for the Trent but I would not entirely rule it out at this stage.

Maybe smaller boats on the canal from the city centre/station area would work and create a decent atmosphere travelling down alongside those walking although you'd have to drop off at the Meadow Lane lock as much quicker to walk over Trent Bridge from there than wait to pass through to the river.

 

[Notcher]

So an unknown cost which could come down if a market that isn't there uses it more is the solution?

The cost is unknown to me but it's obviously going to be more than using it for a matchday park and ride. Why isn't the market there? There's quite literally thousands that would use it on a matchday.

 

[incident]

Maybe smaller boats on the canal from the city centre/station area would work and create a decent atmosphere travelling down alongside those walking although you'd have to drop off at the Meadow Lane lock as much quicker to walk over Trent Bridge from there than wait to pass through to the river.

Canals have a speed limit of 4 miles an hour..

 

[DanR]

Canals have a speed limit of 4 miles an hour..

Or about twice as fast as Lorenzo Lucca.