The World Famous City Ground - Home of the PROPER WORLD‘S OLDEST LEAGUE CLUB

Future of the WFCG? What‘s your preference?

  • Current site - just replace the BC and PT stands

    Votes: 200 61.9%

  • Current site, demolish the existing stadium and build a new one (with ground share during works)

    Votes: 99 30.7%

  • New Stadium further down the River Trent

    Votes: 24 7.4%

  • New Stadium out-of-town

    Votes: 9 2.8%

  • New Stadium in the city centre (Eastside option)

    Votes: 34 10.5%

  • Do nothing and stay as it is with 30k max capacity

    Votes: 9 2.8%

  • Other (I will tell you in the comments)

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Total voters
    323
HBB

HBB

John Robertson
This is probably an unrealistic flight of fancy but I dream of the days when things like planning are switched on their head - imagine a world where the club (or developers in general) approach the council with their plans and the council say we agree with the overall objective, this will benefit you and the city as a whole. Then the instruction to the likes of planning and all the sub committees etc is to find a way to make it happen rather than the club coming up with ideas only to be continually shot down and repeat and repeat and repeat, life in general would be so much better if attitudes were switched to being can do, rather than finding reasons why not.

When I worked in the pharma and finance sectors we had to put marketing plans etc through compliance and their job was seemingly always just to find a way to say no, now in principle I'm ok with that as we shouldn't break guidelines etc - but never did them come back and say "you can't say X but you could say Y" - baffling.
 
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Steve B

Steve B

John Robertson
HBB said:
This is probably an unrealistic flight of fancy but I dream of the days when things like planning are switched on their head - imagine a world where the club (or developers in general) approach the council with their plans and the council say we agree with the overall objective, this will benefit you and the city as a whole. Then the instruction to the likes of planning and all the sub committees etc is to find a way to make it happen rather than the club coming up with ideas only to be continually shot down and repeat and repeat and repeat, life in general would be so much better if attitudes were switched to being can do, rather than finding reasons why not.

When I worked in the pharma and finance sectors we had to put marketing plans etc through compliance and their job was seemingly always just to find a way to say no, now in principle I'm ok with as we shouldn't break guidelines etc - but never did them come back and say "you can't say X but you could say Y" - baffling.
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Spot on. Could you imagine adding up the incremental cost increases that are caused by intransigent council planning departments with a culture of just saying no and pushing it back across the table each time unnecessarily extending start dates by years.
Can’t they just say do this, this and this and you’ll get the approval stamp.
 
HBB

HBB

John Robertson
Steve B said:
Spot on. Could you imagine adding up the incremental cost increases that are caused by intransigent council planning departments with a culture of just saying no and pushing it back across the table each time unnecessarily extending start dates by years.
Can’t they just say do this, this and this and you’ll get the approval stamp.
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Exactly - it would get even better if the planning depts came back and said we've worked out X numbers of options the pros and cons and the estimated costs and timings associated - which could then go forward for a vote and in doing so it would enable easier budgeting and timings and be more transparent as we'd all know what was going on and when and why each option was possible/impossible
 
andover red

andover red

Grenville Morris
Just come across a press release from a week ago with mention of a new 'stadium regeneration accelerator'. It goes on...

"In a further growth boost for towns and cities across England, a new cross-government programme will work with sporting bodies on priority sports infrastructure development projects - such as stadiums - that can help deliver local regeneration and commercial growth."

Now, I suspect this is primarily to help deliver something for Manchester, but it establishes principles that would certainly help our case.

www.gov.uk

First Olympics in the North of England in government’s sights alongside stadium regeneration push

Initial strategic assessment commissioned into potential bid for Olympic and Paralympic Games in the North of England in the 2040s
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
 
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billygrayonthe bus

A. Trialist
Battered Sausage said:
Out of interest, is anyone from north of the river planing on parking further east and using the new footbridge?
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yes definitely. For years i've parked near the racecourse then cycled over lady bay bridge to the BC stand bike stand. Pretty scary on the bridge and the bike stand is inadequate and poorly sited but it works. Looking forward to the improvement,
 
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Ian Moore Gone Little

Geoff Thomas
andover red said:
Just come across a press release from a week ago with mention of a new 'stadium regeneration accelerator'. It goes on...

"In a further growth boost for towns and cities across England, a new cross-government programme will work with sporting bodies on priority sports infrastructure development projects - such as stadiums - that can help deliver local regeneration and commercial growth."

Now, I suspect this is primarily to help deliver something for Manchester, but it establishes principles that would certainly help our case.

www.gov.uk

First Olympics in the North of England in government’s sights alongside stadium regeneration push

Initial strategic assessment commissioned into potential bid for Olympic and Paralympic Games in the North of England in the 2040s
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
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I mentioned that northern Olympics thing a few days ago as someone had mentioned the upgrade to Elland Road in that context and I said at least there would be a precedent we could point at.

If we can get the idea of a Nottingham sports quarter (combining the city’s rich and unique rich sporting history with top-notch modern facilities, etc) going, as mentioned by several of us in these pages in recent months, surely that could only help in getting attention, investment, planning permission, etc.
 
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Sooty

First Team Squad
billygrayonthe bus said:
yes definitely. For years i've parked near the racecourse then cycled over lady bay bridge to the BC stand bike stand. Pretty scary on the bridge and the bike stand is inadequate and poorly sited but it works. Looking forward to the improvement,
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I’d be likely to do the same. It’d be good to think that part of the plans would be to improve/enhance the cycle parking facilities at the ground. As it stands, it’s easy enough to get a bus into the city and walk through the Sneinton Avenues and get to LB bridge within 20 minutes. I’m with those who aren’t convinced that expanding the capacity will necessarily bring the corresponding amount of cars into LB and WB.
 
PlayedOnGrass

PlayedOnGrass

Geoff Thomas
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Lady Penelope

Lady Penelope

Viv Anderson
HBB said:
This is probably an unrealistic flight of fancy but I dream of the days when things like planning are switched on their head - imagine a world where the club (or developers in general) approach the council with their plans and the council say we agree with the overall objective, this will benefit you and the city as a whole. Then the instruction to the likes of planning and all the sub committees etc is to find a way to make it happen rather than the club coming up with ideas only to be continually shot down and repeat and repeat and repeat, life in general would be so much better if attitudes were switched to being can do, rather than finding reasons why not.

When I worked in the pharma and finance sectors we had to put marketing plans etc through compliance and their job was seemingly always just to find a way to say no, now in principle I'm ok with that as we shouldn't break guidelines etc - but never did them come back and say "you can't say X but you could say Y" - baffling.
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In my world it's an "and yes" culture we need, rather than the "yes but" that we currently have to struggle through.
 
Strummer

Strummer

Es gibt nur einen
LTLF Minion
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Gaz1980

Geoff Thomas
The whole situation is just a drag now.

Notts averaged 10k last season. You watch that wise to 12k/13k this season.

We're lagging behind every season so just gerron wi it!
 
YellowBelly Red

YellowBelly Red

Jack Armstrong
I see that some Lady Bay councilor is raising petitions to get parking restrictions applied on sporting days.

Needless to say, as an educated woman, she doesn't offer any solutions.
 
Bog roll

Bog roll

Steven Hawkings winger
Time to say F- off to all of them and build a new stadium away from that site. We carry on playing there till it’s done.
No disruption to the club matches and serves them right 🖕🏻

F ING Tories and Labour useless. No wonder the rubber boaters run rings round them
 
Statto

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
YellowBelly Red said:
I see that some Lady Bay councilor is raising petitions to get parking restrictions applied on sporting days.

Needless to say, as an educated woman, she doesn't offer any solutions.
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I'm not sure that even that is a solution given it's already an offence to park over a dropped kerb (if it blocks a car in, blocking an empty drive is frowned upon but not banned) or within a certain distance of a junction, irrespective of the presence of yellow lines.

If people are parking and breaking the existing regulations then more isn't going to help.

People should park with consideration to the local residents whether or not they're going to a match. If you can't park legally then park somewhere else or go on the bus/tram/walk/whatever

There isn't an elegant solution because there never will be for 30k odd people going to a sports match in a residential area
 
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