The farce that is FIFA/uefa

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Francis Benali (on loan)

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Politicians get involved, for good or bad, and Fifa can kick that country out of international football. It is ridiculous.

Yes, McQuaid has gone from the UCI. Jacques Rogge was newly appointed when the Salt Lake City scandal came out. Is there an example of a President of a sporting governing body staying on after being in charge when this many allegations have been made?
 
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Francis Benali (on loan)

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Platini. You had high hopes for him, but some of his ideas have been atrocious. Even so deep down you suspect he is probably an honest man. He hasn't even announced he will be running for Presidency yet as far as I know, but already it seems the muck spreading has started. He publicly backed Qatar, which made it easy for Blatter to position himself on the side of sense and say it was a mistake possibly knowing these allegations were coming.

Platini this week said: 'Unfortunately, I am no longer surprised by the circulation of unfounded rumours which aim at tarnishing my image, especially in such an important time for the future of football. I find it astonishing that conversations with a fellow member of the FIFA executive committee could suddenly be transformed into a matter of state.'

If Platini stands, I'll bet he gets nowhere near the Presidency and finishes up another disgraced ex member of the 'Fifa family'.
 
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Barbus

Barbus

Steve Chettle
Le Juif Rouge said:
The problems in FIFA are large and deep and everyone can see that.....the people at the top either knew what was going on and should go OR they did not know what was going on and have therefore failed abysmally in their duties and responsibilities and should still go.

It wont happen simply because they are unaccountable to anyone.

Are there enough national football associations with the balls and credibility to withdraw from FIFA and form a rival body? Again I doubt it. Also sport has been used as a political weapon for so long I doubt the politicians can or would get involved in sorting FIFA out.
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That's a hugely dangerous thing to do and no major nation would instigate such a move unless they really had no choice. At best you will cause a schism with two versions of international football, and at worst you risk total isolation or only having a handful of countries to play against.

I see Sony have expressed their concern about the Qatar bid; if anyone can apply pressure on FIFA it's sponsors.
 
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Francis Benali (on loan)

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Is it not possible to get an independent enquiry? Surely there is some law somewhere that says organizations cannot run this sort of investigation themselves?

I am investigating myself to see if I ate that delicious Chocolate Guinness cake that is now completely missing from the kitchen. I take these allegations very seriously. I have listened to all evidence and my verdict is that it is inconclusive. I am pleased my name has finally been cleared. It has been a very stressful time for me and my family.
 
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Le Juif Rouge

Le Juif Rouge

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Barbus said:
That's a hugely dangerous thing to do and no major nation would instigate such a move unless they really had no choice. At best you will cause a schism with two versions of international football, and at worst you risk total isolation or only having a handful of countries to play against.

I see Sony have expressed their concern about the Qatar bid; if anyone can apply pressure on FIFA it's sponsors.
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Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and stand up for what is right. If the main Euro Nations took a stand together and formed a rival body it may cause mayhem initially, but in the medium term FIFA would capitulate of collapse.

There will be the inevitable cries of Eurocentric racist colonialism from those close to Blatter et al, but once the money stared to flow other nations would join.

The problem as I have said before is that in many cultures giving expensive gifts in honour of those with influence in the hope of a returned favour is NOT considered a bribe.
 
Ravi

Ravi

Upper Decker
How can anyone have any faith in the integrity of world football when the head organisation is so thoroughly corrupt? It's like when I see that Juventus have won a trophy and my first thought is always, 'I wonder how much they paid in bribes for that one'.
 
Barry

Barry

Where's me hammer?
One country can't do it alone, say England did it FIFA would say fair enough your banned from international competition, UEFA would have to follow suit so no champions league which would then mean the top 4 putting pressure on the FA to back down. If one goes you need Spain Germany England at least and maybe Italy or France. You couldn't be champions of Europe if none of these country's had an entry.
 
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Francis Benali (on loan)

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Fa did give a vote of no confidence after the bid. The were shouted down and accused of trying to damage the Fifa family. 'Fifa family' sounds really creepy and sinister.
 
Strummer

Strummer

Socialismo O Muerte!
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Andrea Carnevale (on loan) said:
Fa did give a vote of no confidence after the bid. The were shouted down and accused of trying to damage the Fifa family. 'Fifa family' sounds really creepy and sinister.
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That's because they could allegedly teach the Mafia a thing or two about extortion and money-making.

Allegedly.
 
Barry

Barry

Where's me hammer?
Andrea Carnevale (on loan) said:
Fa did give a vote of no confidence after the bid. The were shouted down and accused of trying to damage the Fifa family. 'Fifa family' sounds really creepy and sinister.
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Vote of no confidence is no where near as much as a we aren't dealing with you as your corrupt statement which is what a proposed breakaway would be.
 
Le Juif Rouge

Le Juif Rouge

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Steve Sutton's lazy eye said:
One country can't do it alone, say England did it FIFA would say fair enough your banned from international competition, UEFA would have to follow suit so no champions league which would then mean the top 4 putting pressure on the FA to back down. If one goes you need Spain Germany England at least and maybe Italy or France. You couldn't be champions of Europe if none of these country's had an entry.
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There is a potential for this World Cup not to go off smoothly, particularly at a political level and worse if protesters get harmed badly. Then there is a fair degree of certainty that Putin will exploit the 2018 event for political gain which may put the participation of some countries at risk.....and 2022 has already imploded.

It is time for an alternative football event.
 
Barbus

Barbus

Steve Chettle
Le Juif Rouge said:
It is time for an alternative football event.
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Bring back the Sir Thomas Lipton Trophy.

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Francis Benali (on loan)

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Le Juif Rouge said:
It is time for an alternative football event.
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If the big clubs ever sensed the World Cup could be coming to an end, they would step in to make sure no alternative was set up in its place.

The World Cup isn't about to end though, thankfully. It is amazing you can still have such a good competition with such unsuitable people running it really.
 
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Francis Benali (on loan)

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I'd prefer it to go the other way. Introduce central contracts like we have with the cricket team. International tournaments, qualifiers, friendlies take priority. Slap the clubs back down a bit. They would still get the international players for much of the season as there aren't all that many international games. But they wouldn't have them for friendly tours of the some part of the world they're trying to 'break'.
 
Senior Flange Technician

Senior Flange Technician

Andy!
The home nations could rescind FIFA's rights to the laws of the game.
 
Gary

Gary

No wonder my post count..

This is fantastic.
 
adam09

adam09

Super Koopa
How can one person be so deluded, so out of touch, so greedy, so obnoxious yet completely untouchable. Hopefully he will choke on his prawn sandwiches sooner rather than later.
 
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Francis Benali (on loan)

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Tim Roth as Sepp Blatter? :LOL: Where did it go wrong?

As he looks like he'll never actually stand down and he can't be beaten, it is only going to get more and more f***ed up.
 
Le Juif Rouge

Le Juif Rouge

Senior Mass Debater
Blatter is not going to walk away from FIFA without a large sum of money and a written guarantee he will never be prosecuted.

The only answer is for the Football Associations who oppose his fiefdom to walk away from FIFA. He has too many influential cohorts to simply unseat him. Mugabe and Blatter are the same species.
 
Le Juif Rouge

Le Juif Rouge

Senior Mass Debater
Breaking News on Sky - The FA, the Dutch FA and other Euro FA's have told Blatter he is toast.

Blatter however has the support of the African and Asian associations so can do what he likes.

Time to break away Europe.
 
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