Summer 24 Transfer Window

[Cloughie1975]

Regardless of what division we are in, the priority list should be:

1) Two crap keepers
2) Overpriced Mendes player
3) Ego-boosting designer-name signing, who might not be good at football but is huge on Instagram
4) Aging players with little/no resale value
5) Random agent punts, preferably all at the last minute

On past windows, I'm confidant we can achieve this.

You forgot an injured player who will probably never wear a Forest shirt,Alf.

 

[DocForest]

Regardless of what division we are in, the priority list should be:

1) Two crap keepers
2) Overpriced Mendes player
3) Ego-boosting designer-name signing, who might not be good at football but is huge on Instagram
4) Aging players with little/no resale value
5) Random agent punts, preferably all at the last minute

On past windows, I'm confidant we can achieve this.

To be fair Alf, and just for balance, you've missed off the ten or so players that have potentially doubled/tripled/quadrupled in value since we got them.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

To be fair Alf, and just for balance, you've missed off the ten or so players that have potentially doubled/tripled/quadrupled in value since we got them.

True, 10 out of that 124+ have been great!

 

[Sib]

I hope we can just plan to make fewer signings and hold onto our good players for longer instead.

Murillo's value will be on the rise for the next few years, so no reason to be considering a sale in the summer.

 

[Red Dog in a Dinghy]

Even if we manage to get £20m combined in fees for Vlach, Turner, Worrall, O'Brien, and Dennis, which might just about be feasible, that doesn't equate to £20m in profit. Taking into account the amortised fees still outstanding for those players (apart from Worrall), we'd at best be breaking even there. Plus the likes of Hwang, Laryea, Richards, Panzo are also all currently still under contract for next year too. I don't suggest any of them are likely to be involved, but again we'd be doing well to get rid of them without making a loss.

You also complete neglect the non-player costs the club incur like agent fees, non playing staff wages etc.

I do think we'll have more wriggle room than this season, but if you're expecting anything like £150m net spend you're going to be disappointed.

My post wasn’t intended to be exact.

it was to highlight the increased profit, reduced player numbers and associated costs, leading to player purchases more in line with 22/23 than 23/24.

The fees you mentioned could be included under allowable losses? Supported by EM.

I’m not sure why, after 90m sales and projected sales, that we would suddenly have the most conservative (transfer budget) year in the EPL so far, for the 23/25 reporting period?

Rightly or wrongly, EM wants us to win things. I’m not sure why next season he’d put the brakes on his fast track approach.

 

[HBB]

Assuming we stay up Murillo is a must stay - he's a true legend in the making but we're bound to see some big offers I'm sure

 

[Robertson]

Assuming we stay up Murillo is a must stay - he's a true legend in the making but we're bound to see some big offers I'm sure

Depends how pushy him and his agent are I suppose. He only made his senior debut last April. Maybe he’ll fancy another full season before chasing the really big bucks. If we stay up.

 

[Master Yates]

Guna get in early with this one: Jonathan Rowe, Norwich. I get the same instant instinct that he will be a right player that I did when I first saw Eze, Olise, Maddison etc.

Sometimes it just looks so obvious and with this kid it looks obvious that he will make it.

Left back I’d like to see Kieran Tierney on loan with a buy option. Right back either Kyle Walker Peters or Matty Cash (Villa keep getting linked woth RBs). Keeper I’d go Johnstone or Patterson from Sunderland.

Striker is the real tough one. Maybe Brereton Diaz on loan? Or maybe Cameron Archer if Wilder doesn’t fancy him at Blunts.

If we are looking at centre halves, Tosin and Lloyd Kelly are both out of contract this summer. Kelly would be a very cost effective replacement should Murillo be sold for big money.


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[Col Steve Austin]

Depends how pushy him and his agent are I suppose. He only made his senior debut last April. Maybe he’ll fancy another full season before chasing the really big bucks. If we stay up.

This is it. He's 21 and inexperienced. He might be of interest to the likes of Newcastle, Chelsea etc this summer but if he stays for one more season then by summer '25 he'll no doubt have the big boys interested - Madrid, Barca etc.

 

[youreds1986]

This is it. He's 21 and inexperienced. He might be of interest to the likes of Newcastle, Chelsea etc this summer but if he stays for one more season then by summer '25 he'll no doubt have the big boys interested - Madrid, Barca etc.

I think the likes of City, Madrid, Bayern, PSG etc may come in this summer if he keeps up his current form.

 

[Monkman]

We should go for the Ipswich left back if they don't go up - Leif?

 

[Robertson]

I think the likes of City, Madrid, Bayern, PSG etc may come in this summer if he keeps up his current form.

Yeah then they probably offer less than Newcastle etc would and its “why are you blocking my dream move”. Can’t win really.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

Regardless of what division we are in, the priority list should be:

1) Two crap keepers
2) Overpriced Mendes player
3) Ego-boosting designer-name signing, who might not be good at football but is huge on Instagram
4) Aging players with little/no resale value
5) Random agent punts, preferably all at the last minute

On past windows, I'm confidant we can achieve this.

You seem to have forgotten we need to sign lots of central midfielders and full backs.

 

[eyupmeduck]

You seem to have forgotten we need to sign lots of central midfielders and full backs.

I'm also disappointed that we seem to have given up on the strategy of risking our own compliance with psr by signing players that are for Olympiakos who they quickly bin off.

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[DizzyBala]

Spence, Zinckernagel, Lowe, Davis.

 

[YouReds43]

Well should a points deduction send us down, who will leave and how many will we have to replace

 

[Otis Redding]

Well should a poinuts deduction send us down, who will leave and how many will we have to replace

What's your guess?

 

[Robertson]

Hard to say really isn’t it. We don’t know who has what clause in their contract, or who will be attracting offers come June and July. If I were to hazard a guess at this point on the players most likely to attract interest if we were to go down I’d say:

Murillo
Gibbs-White
Elanga
Awoniyi

There’ll be people who’ll be adamant we’ll have to sell absolutely everyone and rip it all up and start again, but I’m not sure that’s necessarily true. We’ll have to wait and see. Hopefully it won’t come to that.

 

[Redemption]

Leeds, as an example, kept most of their players, but loaned out some to EPL teams.

Leicester sold a couple - Maddison and Barnes - but retained everyone else, iirc.

There isn't a rule that causes the automatic sale of the best assets. As the owners have their own rules, we'll have to see.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

You know what, I don't think we'd actually lose that many players. I think Murillo would be gone because we could use the sale of him to plug the gap between PL revenue and parachute payment revenue and because at Championship level you don't need CBs that can ping 40 yard balls you just need a couple who are big, strong and reasonably quick.

After that we will probably try and hang on to MGW and Awoniyi just because that's almost a cheat sheet to immediate promotion.

Obviously both players and a few others like Sangare, Danilo, Dominguez, CHO, Elanga would probably want to leave but whether they actually would leave would depend on the offers received and how much of a problem in the dressing room they would cause if we didn't clear the way for them to leave.

At a minimum I think our starting 11 would be this:

Sels
Williams Omobamidele Niakhate Toffolo
Yates Danilo
NewRW Aguilera CHO
Awoniyi
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With £80m to spend on attacking and CM reinforcements.

But it could quite easily be:

Sels
Williams Omobamidele Niakhate Aina
Sangare Dominguez
Elanga MGW CHO
Awoniyi
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With no need to spend on reinforcements, just a couple of loans for depth up top and out wide.

 

[Robertson]

Leeds, as an example, kept most of their players, but loaned out some to EPL teams.

Leicester sold a couple - Maddison and Barnes - but retained everyone else, iirc.

There isn't a rule that causes the automatic sale of the best assets. As the owners have their own rules, we'll have to see.

I could be wrong here but I think Leeds hand was forced to an extent with some of the loans out as it was written into their contracts as a relegation clause. Which of course could apply to our players as well who knows.

The three relegated clubs all made four or five big sales. So significant but far from a firesale.

 

[Robertson]

After that we will probably try and hang on to MGW and Awoniy

In our favour we mostly have youth on our side so players might be more inclined to give us another year to really prove themselves. Awoniyi perhaps the exception there, depends what offers he/we get. Someone other than us in the PL has to see his value surely?

 

[Thomas]

Sels
Williams Omobamidele Niakhate Aina
Sangare Dominguez
Elanga MGW CHO
Awoniyi
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With no need to spend on reinforcements, just a couple of loans for depth up top and out wide.

This would be an ABSURD team in the championship lol. If we can convince them I sure it could happen but we would have to go up immediately. Can also loan some of them away i guess so we don’t have to pay the wages while maybe keeping them for the premier league.

Overall I agree and hey look how much fun Leicester Leeds and Southampton are having under us compared to the torture Burnley etc are enduring this season.


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[Ashley]

If we go down Murillo, MGW, Taiwo and Elanga will definitely be off.

Good chance that Dominguez, Danilo and Niakhate leave too I reckon.

The out of contract players (Boly, Aina, Wood, Kouyate) will all leave.

Most of the money from those sales will be used to plug FFP gaps and service the wage bill of what remains (given that we'd have a substantial drop in income if we were in the Championship next season).

It'd be a very different Forest side next year, and no doubt another chaotic summer of ins and (mostly) outs.

 

[Robertson]

If we go down Murillo, MGW, Taiwo and Elanga will definitely be off.

Good chance that Dominguez, Danilo and Niakhate leave too I reckon.

The out of contract players (Boly, Aina, Wood, Kouyate) will all leave.

Most of the money from those sales will be used to plug FFP gaps and service the wage bill of what remains (given that we'd have a substantial drop in income if we were in the Championship next season).

It'd be a very different Forest side next year, and no doubt another chaotic summer of ins and (mostly) outs.

You seem to think that somehow we will simultaneously sell/release all of our players yet retain a massive wage bill and be in FFP trouble. This can’t possibly be the case. It will be a balance between the two extremes.