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Summer 2022 Transfer Window

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Dirk Furtull

John Robertson
I've only just gotten around to reading that article.

The Ocean 11 simile was lame and based on the number of recruits required rather the industry of the gang.

But actually, the article was asking did Forest have a choice?

I think he concluded that we didn't have an alternative and that the task was massive.

Is it really controversial to suggest that adding 15 new players to the squad in destabilising? That seems obvious to me.
Obviously it's going to have an affect on the team making so many changes and it's going to take some time to come together, so yes it's destabilising. As you say we had no choice and I'm confident we'll be much improved on what we'd have had keeping the loans, and adding a few extra players.

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Rzar

Bob McKinlay
People making a judgement about how we will do is a complete coin flip because there is so many unknowns and nothing to actually go on, we are a complete unknown. That goes for in and outside the club, it’s why the comparisons to other sides is pointless.

The one thing I would say is we have a very good coach with the ability to quickly get players up to speed. I recall one iffy game against Millwall in his first match last year then the week after against Barnsley we looked how we looked for the rest of the season.
 

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
People making a judgement about how we will do is a complete coin flip because there is so many unknowns and nothing to actually go on, we are a complete unknown. That goes for in and outside the club, it’s why the comparisons to other sides is pointless.

The one thing I would say is we have a very good coach with the ability to quickly get players up to speed. I recall one iffy game against Millwall in his first match last year then the week after against Barnsley we looked how we looked for the rest of the season.
It's all a gamble isn't it - but I'd rather see us give the dice a proper role than any of the alternatives. Agree with the good point you make too.
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
It's all a gamble isn't it - but I'd rather see us give the dice a proper role than any of the alternatives. Agree with the good point you make too.
It is a gamble to stay up you are right but it's also a caluclated gamble, the players we are signing on the most part are young & will be able to dominate the Championship if the worst happens. We aren't signing a team of 30 year olds here.

People forget where we come from, which is 2 decades in the wilderness. Us going down and being in a position to come back up us still progress for us as a club.
 

Bruno

A. Trialist
Would take a 10 (the Atalanta or Lyon guy)
LWB (hopefully we can pip Brighton to Estupidan)
And finally a CB with a lot of pace as a key attribute. I thought we were afraid to push up against Newcastle for fear of their wingers pace which meant we pretty much camped in our own half.
Wouldn't be surprised if we played 4 at the back on more than a few occasions too.
Just my 2 cents.
 

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
It is a gamble to stay up you are right but it's also a caluclated gamble, the players we are signing on the most part are young & will be able to dominate the Championship if the worst happens. We aren't signing a team of 30 year olds here.

People forget where we come from, which is 2 decades in the wilderness. Us going down and being in a position to come back up us still progress for us as a club.
Exactly- it's the best way of protecting the investments already made. We won't be risking ffp, as the leadership at the club have always stated we won't and have form fir that with our sister club.

I'm really impressed with how no stove seems to be left unturned with our recruitment in terms of squad depth and the blend of youth and experience (and both) we have brought in.
 

Haych

John Robertson
I don’t think we need to sign any more after the Atalanta lad signs.

Give Cooper time to actually work with the 15 new lads and if needed bring another 1/2 in the January window.

We seem to be trying to build a 25 man squad in one window, which is mental.
 

Redemption

Weepy gripe baby 👶
Crikey, so much to read this morning, how much time will I have to set aside when we actually play a match?
The Premier League requires a lot more attention. That's where the big bucks are.

You won't have time for a lamb shank.
 

Raymondo Ponte'

It's all about mid-table...
I don’t think we need to sign any more after the Atalanta lad signs.

Give Cooper time to actually work with the 15 new lads and if needed bring another 1/2 in the January window.

We seem to be trying to build a 25 man squad in one window, which is mental.
Only 36 games after this, if we sign anymore Coops not get chance to find his best 11 !!

Yates ulbe in that goes without sayin.
 

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
Once again, I'm afraid you're entering overspending territory. How many central midfielders do you need? But then again, it may simply be the fact that, with my kind of football knowledge (limited to much lower budgets), I simply find the numbers dizzying.
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Once again, I'm afraid you're entering overspending territory. How many central midfielders do you need? But then again, it may simply be the fact that, with my kind of football knowledge (limited to much lower budgets), I simply find the numbers dizzying.
We aren’t even in the top spenders in this division yet

You may question the quantity but I don’t think we have overspent on any player on paper
 

GOBIAS

Ian Bowyer
People making a judgement about how we will do is a complete coin flip because there is so many unknowns and nothing to actually go on, we are a complete unknown. That goes for in and outside the club, it’s why the comparisons to other sides is pointless.

The one thing I would say is we have a very good coach with the ability to quickly get players up to speed. I recall one iffy game against Millwall in his first match last year then the week after against Barnsley we looked how we looked for the rest of the season.
Even second half of Millwall was a game we could have nicked.
 

Redemption

Weepy gripe baby 👶
Arsenal £120m -> (squad value £500m)
Manchester City £100m -> (£900m)
Leeds £100m -> (£300m)
Spurs £92m -> (£500m)
Chelsea £85m -> (£800m)
Forest £85m -> (£35m)
West Ham -> (£310m)

Although we still have some spending to go, so do the others.

We're chasing a race in which every other competitor has a massive investment advantage over us.
 

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
If you sign Freuler, Sow and Aouar as is claimed by press reports you will have 9 players who can play in midfield, 10 if one includes Hammond who still is part of the first team: Colback, Yates, Cafú, Hammond / Kouyaté, O'Brien, Mangala, Freuler (?), Sow (?), Aouar (?). Even if you let Cafú go, disregard Hammond, consider Colback primarily a LB, and Aouar primarily an AM, that's still 6 players for 2 positions. That's the definition of an overkill (or nouveau riche territory).
 

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
If you sign Freuler, Sow and Aouar as is claimed by press reports you will have 9 players who can play in midfield, 10 if one includes Hammond who still is part of the first team: Colback, Yates, Cafú, Hammond / Kouyaté, O'Brien, Mangala, Freuler (?), Sow (?), Aouar (?). Even if you let Cafú go, disregard Hammond, consider Colback primarily a LB, and Aouar primarily an AM, that's still 6 players for 2 positions. That's the definition of an overkill (or nouveau riche territory).
At least two of those will be moved on - Hammond will go on loan, Cafu may he kept as cheerleader and Colback as cover unless we get a left back, in which case I think he'll go. Cafu and Colback both good characters, but I don't expect to see them play much now.
 

gamble

Stuart Pearce
If you sign Freuler, Sow and Aouar as is claimed by press reports you will have 9 players who can play in midfield, 10 if one includes Hammond who still is part of the first team: Colback, Yates, Cafú, Hammond / Kouyaté, O'Brien, Mangala, Freuler (?), Sow (?), Aouar (?). Even if you let Cafú go, disregard Hammond, consider Colback primarily a LB, and Aouar primarily an AM, that's still 6 players for 2 positions. That's the definition of an overkill (or nouveau riche territory).
Cafu, Hammond and probably Colback will not be used much if at all.
 

incident

Viv Anderson
If you sign Freuler, Sow and Aouar as is claimed by press reports you will have 9 players who can play in midfield, 10 if one includes Hammond who still is part of the first team: Colback, Yates, Cafú, Hammond / Kouyaté, O'Brien, Mangala, Freuler (?), Sow (?), Aouar (?). Even if you let Cafú go, disregard Hammond, consider Colback primarily a LB, and Aouar primarily an AM, that's still 6 players for 2 positions. That's the definition of an overkill (or nouveau riche territory).
I think it's likely that especially away from home we have 3 spots in the middle rather than 2.

Regarding the specific players - I suspect the Sow reports are reporting a previous and no longer relevant approach, and that Kouyate is more likely to feature at CB. Hammond is at least a couple years away from being in the side and so can't be considered anything more than an emergency option - he'll spend this year in the U21s and next season out on loan somewhere.
 
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