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Summer 2022 Transfer Window

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OLDMANRED

Jack Burkitt
The 100 odd million we’ve been landed with for transfers looks like it’s small change in the back pockets of most of the other prem clubs. We’re up against it
 

Collymore!

Thankyou Steve!
100%.

We need to also put in perspective squad values too, we were a million miles back, working to catch up in 8 weeks.

Chelsea spending £20m on a youth player. One signing for one of the “top-six” clubs can be more than our summer business.
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
100%.

We need to also put in perspective squad values too, we were a million miles back, working to catch up in 8 weeks.

Chelsea spending £20m on a youth player. One signing for one of the “top-six” clubs can be more than our summer business.
Yep lots of people will tag us as big spending but the reality is we've only paid more than £10m for three players, only one of which started yesterday. Most teams in this league won't have anyone in their team below £10m.

If we'd been in this league and spent £25m over four seasons we'd be low spending relegation favourites each season.
 

Ashley

Steve Chettle
We need a gret big f***er in midfield. We also should switch to 3 in the middle away from home judging from yesterday.
Agree with us needing a 3 man midfield away from home. I know we started with Colback (who'll probably end up being 5th/6th choice midfielder when our transfer business is completed) but we got completely overwhelmed in midfield yesterday.
 

Haych

John Robertson
Agree with us needing a 3 man midfield away from home. I know we started with Colback (who'll probably end up being 5th/6th choice midfielder when our transfer business is completed) but we got completely overwhelmed in midfield yesterday.
The midfield were so easily overran it was embarrassing, we missed Yates big time as he would of at least got stuck in and gave us a second to breath.

We have to hope a 3 of Yates, Mangala and LOB is good enough away from home with one dropping out for BJ or Lingard for the home games and maybe away games against lesser teams.

In a way yesterdays game could be good for us as it should of gave the players, coaching staff and fans a subtle reminder of what we’re up against.
 

Heffing Psycho!

Steve Chettle
We also should switch to 3 in the middle away from home judging from yesterday.

This is also what Wilder/ Sheffield United did when they came up, in the Championship they mostly played 3-4-1-2 like us and quickly moved to 3-5-2 when they came up. They also didn't really do it with a monster midfielder just hard workers Fleck and Lundstram (and occasionally Freeman lol) with Norwood playing the playmaker role, although they did add Berge in the Jan window for some monster points.
 

Haych

John Robertson
This is also what Wilder/ Sheffield United did when they came up, in the Championship they mostly played 3-4-1-2 like us and quickly moved to 3-5-2 when they came up. They also didn't really do it with a monster midfielder just hard workers Fleck and Lundstram (and occasionally Freeman lol) with Norwood playing the playmaker role although they did add Berge in the Jan window for some monster points.
I think I’m just old school and think if we have a 6’4 monster in midfield everything would be sunshine and rainbows.

Honestly we should look to Sheffield United’s first season as inspiration, finished top ten with a team which on paper would probably be a bottom half Championship side but outworked teams and fought for every point.
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
We have to go to a 3 in the middle, I can't see a world where we don't.

Whenever Newcastle had it out wide, the midfielders were over covering and the defenders were doing what they did excellent last season in keeping narrow & dealing with balls in the box. But there was acres of space infront of the defence, with over 2 of the Newcastle midfielders free every time because our midfielders were elsewhere & it meant there was no way out. That will have to change. If we play like that against the likes of Man City, De Bruyne will score about 5 himself.
 

Heffing Psycho!

Steve Chettle
I think I’m just old school and think if we have a 6’4 monster in midfield everything would be sunshine and rainbows.

Honestly we should look to Sheffield United’s first season as inspiration, finished top ten with a team which on paper would probably be a bottom half Championship side but outworked teams and fought for every point.

Problem is that team stuck together after promotion and kept that mega team spirit. Ours was ripped apart. But if that 3-5-2 is an avenue we're looking at exploring I'd happily see Garner come back and sit between Yates and Mangala/O'Brien.
 

RedSpoons

First Team Squad
We have to go to a 3 in the middle, I can't see a world where we don't.

Whenever Newcastle had it out wide, the midfielders were over covering and the defenders were doing what they did excellent last season in keeping narrow & dealing with balls in the box. But there was acres of space infront of the defence, with over 2 of the Newcastle midfielders free every time because our midfielders were elsewhere & it meant there was no way out. That will have to change. If we play like that against the likes of Man City, De Bruyne will score about 5 himself.
Yeah do we think we could eventually see an 11 where Johnson is the only recognised striker? Like a mid 3 of Mangala, Yates and MGW? All very different, but willing runners. Would mean Brennan and JL making runs.

We have talked a lot about hold up play at striker, but without the ability to retain any of the ball in midfield or frustrate others without it, that striker profile (and really any striker profile) is redundant more often than its useful.
 

eyupmeduck

Geoff Thomas
Do people not think that yesterday was pretty good evidence that we need to get AWAY from having a Championship team, rather than leaning 100% into it?
I don't think yesterday was pretty good evidence of anything really, we can't take too much from it or we will also have to start assuming that Liverpool won't be competing for the title and Bournemouth will.

We do have to buy according to our budget and who has the desire to play for us, Berge was good enough in the Premier league and might relish the opportunity to play there again and could add to our team in an area we are short in.

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Ashley

Steve Chettle
Berge is a good player with experience in this league and is available for a decent price. He'd be an excellent signing IMO, though it doesn't seem he's on our radar.
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
I don't think we learned anything.

Colback and OBrien isn't anywhere near a strong enough central midfield to allow us to get a foothold in the game and with no hold up player we couldn't even keep ball out of our half.

But that was obvious going into the game, so too is the fact we need to gel.

Best thing we can do is just get back in training ground ASAP.
 

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
We have to go to a 3 in the middle, I can't see a world where we don't.

Whenever Newcastle had it out wide, the midfielders were over covering and the defenders were doing what they did excellent last season in keeping narrow & dealing with balls in the box. But there was acres of space infront of the defence, with over 2 of the Newcastle midfielders free every time because our midfielders were elsewhere & it meant there was no way out. That will have to change. If we play like that against the likes of Man City, De Bruyne will score about 5 himself.
It's the Lingard conundrum I was talking about yesterday. With two players not helping in defence, you risk being overrun in midfield. Three midfielders might indeed be the solution, but then what are you going to do with all these high-profile forward players? A defensive 3-5-2 would leave both Lingard and, say, Gibbs-White, out of the starting 11, not to mention the difficulties in creating and scoring.
 

cheapseats

Grenville Morris
We need a gret big f***er in midfield. We also should switch to 3 in the middle away from home judging from yesterday.
Agree, certainly until we find our feet. Based on yesterday we need to be careful not to get on the end of some hidings against the good teams-that won't do confidence any good and even if people think its negative we can't afford it IMO if we are going to make a good go of staying up
 
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