Berkshire Red
John Robertson
Shock! Horror! The team with the most decisions going their way wins the League. Almost as though the PGMOL or whoever sponsors them could decide who wins the League, isn't it?
Standard of Referees
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HappyHappyJoyJoy
Stuart Pearce
Its almost like football is a low scoring game and individual refereeing decisions have outsized impact.
But that cant be true because if it was then referees would welcome an open and honest discussion about any biases they might have, in order to reduce that impact as much as possible.
And we certainly cant have anything like going on, it would hurt their feelings.
vertigored
Viv Anderson
did Arsenal give up any pens or reds in Europe?
Redofheaven2
First Team Squad
A bit later recognising this after the medals have been handed out… if only there was some kind of system where the game could be reviewed instantly and info passed to the ref so he could correct errors or things he had missed during the game…
Redofheaven2
First Team Squad
Yes to the pen and it should have been a second yellow to give the red as well. Of course they then subsistute the guy who should have been sent off before the restart.
PynchonForest
Stuart Pearce
For Canada's friendly today vs the Uzbekkis, we have decided to use, ta da!, a Canadian refereeing crew.
Only in Canada you say?
Only in Canada you say?
Chairman Mo
First Team Squad
It might backfire: the Canadians I know would give every 50/50 to the Uzbeks for fear of being called out for a lack of fairness
PynchonForest
Stuart Pearce
I think that is our official stance. We are more honester than anyone else.
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Statto
Free Kick Specialist
Should have asked Borat
valspoodle
Ian Bowyer
I see Pynchon's favourite ref has a few more new rules to suggest to IFAB for control of corners etc at the WC.
Trents
Stuart Pearce
This beginning of the end for Referee's Assistants?
www.bbc.co.uk
Only a matter of time before offsides become fully automated
Soon all they will be good for is a better view of who wins a throw in on their quarter of the lines.
World Cup 2026: Fifa adds new offside technology to help VAR
The delayed offside flag could almost become a thing of the past after Fifa unveiled new technology to be used at the 2026 World Cup.
www.bbc.co.uk
Only a matter of time before offsides become fully automated
Soon all they will be good for is a better view of who wins a throw in on their quarter of the lines.
Templeton
Viv Anderson
And they'll still look at the ref half the time to see which way they think they should flag.
PynchonForest
Stuart Pearce
Not for that reason. Cross flagging (ie AR signals one way and ref signals the other) doesn't help with match control. EXperienced refs and ARs understand when one or the other has a better angle, and should defer to the other when it makes sense. As a general rule, each AR has a quadrant, and the ref has two. Standard practice is to let the AR deal with their respective quadrants, and the ref to deal with the other two (for goal kick/corner kick and direction of a throw in).
PynchonForest
Stuart Pearce
I am wondering why Seibert isn't at the World Cup. Very strange. A few World Cups ago there was no ref from the EPL involved, which was also very strange.
Colin Addison
First Team Squad
That sounds far too sensible to be true.
valspoodle
Ian Bowyer
In some well-publicised cases the quadrant system obviously doesn't work. We've had a few in the Prem, so in that case, if the ref and lino can't see it properly (and we've had a few which the lino has had to adjudicate a corner or goal kick from the other side of the pitch and got it spectacularly wrong) why not use VAR? Surely VAR can't bugger that up and we would not then be conceding a goal from a guess by an unsighted lino or ref?
PynchonForest
Stuart Pearce
So if something doesn't work every single time then it is no good? This seems to be your logic "the quadrant system obviously doesn't work".
valspoodle
Ian Bowyer
From what I've seen, no , it cannot be relied upon. I remember at Norwich, where the fans look directly along one goal line with the lino on the other side. The ball was inaccurately passed back to our keeper who dived on it with his back to the lino with the ref miles away. It was clear to us that the ball had not crossed the goal line, but despite the ball being over half the pitch away with the two posts and the keeper's body in the way, the lino waved for a corner!
You will note that I said the system cannot be guaranteed to work, not that it was no good. You weaken your argument by purposely misunderstanding the points made. Much as the PGMO seem to do on occasions when there are contentious decisions made.
I merely said that if there is doubt by both officials, then why not use VAR?
ubik
Grenville Morris
Too good to not add to the discussion
Steve B
John Robertson
Just heard the England fans singing this song in 1966 World Cup Final. Made me laugh.
Oh oh what a referee
He went and lost his pea
And his little wooden whistle wouldn’t whistle
The standard of referee songs would get a little bit more venomous a few years later.
Oh oh what a referee
He went and lost his pea
And his little wooden whistle wouldn’t whistle
The standard of referee songs would get a little bit more venomous a few years later.
FLC
Viv Anderson
TrickiestTree
World's only Lars Veldwijk replica shirt owner
Thats the amount wrong vs right. We might have had 3 decisions go our way in losses, then 4 go against us in losses/draws that would have given us 6pts, but still only had one more go against us than for us
Chairman Mo
First Team Squad
How much in prize money has that four places drop cost us?
JonnoSnr
Jack Armstrong
To be fair a very debatable couple of decisions at Wembley (one in particular) earnt us about £200m so we're probably in credit
