Wickio
Robbie Findley
Just to clarify, is this Stone relaying Dyche's opinion, or Steve's opinion?
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Shearstone
Derby delenda est
Stones
Wickio
Robbie Findley
Thanks, how disappointing.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
Whilst I don't think Stone should have been saying things like that, the obvious difference he has with people on here is that he has trained the players and worked with CHO as part of that and also played the same position as he does
Our wingers have been ineffective all season and CHO has been a part of that. VP has decided to only play one of them they have been that inconsistent...
Maybe he was trying to give the lad some tips on how to actually get up the pitch and deliver a ball without cutting in and shooting weakly or passing it back or square to Neco all the time. I know the game was different back then but Stone and Woan were always wingers with a good end product. If his attitude to that was simply to just down tools and play like he did against Wolves then that actually does back Stone up more than CHO really.
I guess an isolated quote in that way could be interpreted several ways but if it actually has some substance and isn't just the ramblings of a drunken middle-aged Geordie then it deserves better treatment than just being dismissed.
Our wingers have been ineffective all season and CHO has been a part of that. VP has decided to only play one of them they have been that inconsistent...
Maybe he was trying to give the lad some tips on how to actually get up the pitch and deliver a ball without cutting in and shooting weakly or passing it back or square to Neco all the time. I know the game was different back then but Stone and Woan were always wingers with a good end product. If his attitude to that was simply to just down tools and play like he did against Wolves then that actually does back Stone up more than CHO really.
I guess an isolated quote in that way could be interpreted several ways but if it actually has some substance and isn't just the ramblings of a drunken middle-aged Geordie then it deserves better treatment than just being dismissed.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
The fact that our manager and/or coaching staff are even in bars gossiping about anything, regardless of the substance just sums up their own intelligence & proves they are complete dinosaurs. Great example to set.
Are you just defending them for the sake of it?
Wickio
Robbie Findley
I understand what you're saying but any comments of that ilk in public are frankly moronic. Whether there is validity to them or not matters little when you're allowing yourself to be overheard in a Nottingham boozer.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
Bing Crosby's Head
Geoff Thomas
To be fair, not taxing your car is not exactly a sign of being in Mensa
Wickio
Robbie Findley
I'm not saying that you aren't in agreement with the inappropriate nature of the comments in public, but I think any reading into the substance of them is moot when that's the example that is being set. Calling CHO the stupidest man he's met while running his mouth in a local bar as if it's a reasonable thing to do is pot calling the kettle black.
Osiris
Geoff Thomas
I doubt CHO is going to win University Challenge any time soon but then neither is Cole Palmer
Who cares if he's think as mince, it never stopped Wayne Rooney being a good footballer, or Gazza, or Waddle or countless other players
Or bloody Steve Stone, for that matter
Who cares if he's think as mince, it never stopped Wayne Rooney being a good footballer, or Gazza, or Waddle or countless other players
Or bloody Steve Stone, for that matter
Scarpa's Skateboard
Viv Anderson
Can't wait for this thread to fade into obscurity. I couldn't stand Dyche and the fact that this thread is still floating around is totally killing my vibe.
Dyche is a shit awful manager who is full of hot air, and shit.
The end
Dyche is a shit awful manager who is full of hot air, and shit.
The end
Project Zeus
Steve Chettle
He's David Brent crossed with an overzealous PE teacher.
He got us vital points when he came in, but he sucked the soul out of the club in the process, and soul has been the key to our success over the last five years. Thank god Pereira was able to recapture it quickly before it was gone, because it's a terribly difficult thing to get back in the bottle.
He got us vital points when he came in, but he sucked the soul out of the club in the process, and soul has been the key to our success over the last five years. Thank god Pereira was able to recapture it quickly before it was gone, because it's a terribly difficult thing to get back in the bottle.
GaryCrosbysStepOver
Geoff Thomas
To be fair, not taxing your car is not exactly a sign of being in Mensa
To be fair most of us as young lads will have been sub-optimal with our life admin. I know I was!
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
Apart from when he was first hired, when it felt like we needed a "rescuer", I wasn't keen on Dyche at any point in his reign. Early performances weren't worthy of the points we actually accrued and they got worse thereafter. I wasn't bothered when we came to sack him as there wasn't any life left in the side, but perhaps wasn't as vocally against him as I was in my head as I thought another change might just completely kill us.
But, with hindsight, he'd already done that and we'd have probably been relegated with him. We've taken 15 points from a run of Man City, Fulham, Spurs, Villa, Burnley, Sunderland and Chelsea. I reckon had we left Dyche to carry on we'd have probably taken 5 or 6 points from that lot. We'd be needing to win two of our remaining three to stay up/
And we wouldn't have come back to beat Midgetland either, so we'd be out of the Europa too.
But, with hindsight, he'd already done that and we'd have probably been relegated with him. We've taken 15 points from a run of Man City, Fulham, Spurs, Villa, Burnley, Sunderland and Chelsea. I reckon had we left Dyche to carry on we'd have probably taken 5 or 6 points from that lot. We'd be needing to win two of our remaining three to stay up/
And we wouldn't have come back to beat Midgetland either, so we'd be out of the Europa too.
Otis Redding
Try A Little Tenderness
I was unaware of that, but I always loved Steve as player for us. He wasn't the most skillful, but his drive and commitment deservedly elevated him to international level with us.
That said, what put me completely off the bloke was a comment he made sometime after he'd moved on from the CG. Asked if he'd ever consider returning to Forest, he replied that he'd maybe consider it at the back-end end of his career. Admittedly, we weren't in a good place at the time was asked, but still, my immediate response on hearing it was "f*ck you".
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
I don't think that's entirely true, though if this incident is true I can certainly agree with your conclusion.
From what I can see, there was an allegation of bullying whilst Stone was on the coaching staff at Burnley. He was suspended whilst it was investigated and following this he returned to work. He then left the club along with Dyche and worked with him at Everton.
I would imagine Dyche is quite stubborn but I don't think Stone would have kept his job if the allegations were serious enough and were upheld. If Dyche didn't agree to it he probably would have been sacked as well.
If he thinks CHO is stupid he should keep that to himself especially whilst he's working for the club and/or living in the local area and especially not gob off about it in the pub after a few drinks. No matter how honestly held his belief is.
It seems VP has done to Dyche what Dyche did to Ange and also what Cooper did to Hughton, would be surprising if he ever gets another PL job again unless he takes a team up, and if SS/IW want to coach again it might have to be under another manager
andover red
Grenville Morris
You can justify his comments as much as you like. It's 100% nob head behaviour from Stone and I don't care if he was a decent player for us.
What it shines a light on (if needed) is why the players turned on the management team. Speaking like that about a popular and well respected player shows no understanding of unity, togetherness and team spirit. Thank f*** the frauds were sacked... God knows what damage they would have done had they been here for longer.
incapable hulk
Best served cold
To be fair, not taxing your car is not exactly a sign of being in Mensa
Coming from Steve Stone who himself accumulated so many points on his licence he was taken to court and given a ban, which was only overturned because he said it ruin his coaching career.
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DanR
Steve Chettle
Back in the 90s I met someone who did babysitting for him, and spoke about him driving like a lunatic around country lanes late at night.
It's crap when your footballing heroes reveal themselves to be idiots.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
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JonnoSnr
Jack Armstrong
What I find ironic is Stone questioning the intelligence of a Forest player while mashed in a Nottingham pub.
chaospunx
Grenville Morris
I quite liked Sean dyche
Untill he managed us now he winds me up to f***
Untill he managed us now he winds me up to f***
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John Robertson
I liked his persona, from afar. I never wanted him to manage Forest, it just didn't feel like a good fit for the squad we'd assembled. Porto at home, Man U even, and Liverpool away, you just began to think it might work.
Unfortunately the gut feeling was right. And everything I've heard since just cements it.