Actually, I'd strongly argue that Pereira's overall managerial record of just short of a 53% win percentage is the complete opposite of shite, the truth being that it's very, very good. And more so when compared to Sean's overall 32%.
Context is important though. So many of those games were immediately after Wolves had sold their best players and others who wanted out, they were a complete shell of a club.
But Rob Edwards is also getting more out of those players than Peraira did as well in context.
Again you have to look at the entire picture. It's always more difficult while you're at the beginning of that turmoil which VP was, the entire club was up in the air. The pressure has also been off Wolves for quite some time now as they fate was all but sealed a long time ago. There's no fear with them any longer, they can just give every game a good go and try to pick up some win bonuses.
Yes that’s correct there is less pressure I can’t deny that but there was obviously talent there that Vitor wasn’t good enough to get something from.
Let's not heap the pressure on to win both of those. Teams fighting relegation are doing so for a reason. Winning 3 in a row is unlikely.
In our case the "reason" is all of the following
Not sure we’ve “hired 3 terrible managers” this season, 2 definitely, but who’s the 3rd?
We've hired 3 managers so it's quite obvious who they are!
I agree that because we’ve hired 3 managers “it’s quite obvious who they are”, however I take issue with the description that all 3 are terrible. We are now playing in a much more coherent style with proactive substitutions being made. Unlike our previous manager we are not just lumping it forward and crossing onto the heads of big centre halves and certainly not throwing players under the bus post match. Also unlike the manager before that we are able to defend generally and set pieces in particular. VP’s record is p9 W3 D2 L3 with only 2 of those 9 games (Brighton & Midtjylland h) being anything remotely approaching terrible.
I think there were a few times when other managers haven't made changes as well - Nuno and Cooper used to do it sometimes if we were getting thrashed or something. It also depends what options we have to bring on. Plenty on the matchday thread last night were wanting Sangare hooked at half time because he was on a booking and Vitor didn't do it. It's hard for us to judge because we see what we see but the manager sees a lot more. Tactically I think Dyche was just trying to keep things simple because if you do the basics well that gives you the foundation to build, and he was probably right with what he said about the players, but throwing them under the bus probably doesn't work well with modern players.
I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree, if you say that performances v Liverpool, Man City, Spurs and, to a certain extent, Fulham still have a long way to go then I can only bow to your greater statistical knowledge, but football results are decided by small margins and if we were lucky to score all 3 against Spurs yesterday we were very unlucky not to beat Fulham.
Oh yes, they can. And they will.
Hi Statto- this is all a bit 'glass half-full', buddy. We were intensely unlucky to lose to Liverpool. We've had some very marginal off-sides against Fulham ('Fine Margins' as sh*t managers like to say)- it's just as easy to argue we could and should have another 4 points under VP.
Wow! I thought I was a miserable bastard!
In context summer signings needed time to bed in as the side had been getting ripped apart season after season. Plus also needed extra jan signings, gomes for a start.
I think dyche may have us in the same place points wise but I would have lost the will to live watching the dire crap.
There is a difference from looking better and results! Good times though we got a result yesterday
I think you could argue results have been better too depending on how you look at it...There is a difference from looking better and results! Good times though we got a result yesterday
Not until yesterday but yesterday was a humongous step. Like Dyches West Ham moment. If Vitor keeps us up I’d be over the moon cause performances I agree with you are much better and more fun
It's easy to make similar arguments under Dyche though. If Neco hadn't been sent off we might have beaten Palace and got more than we did v Leeds. If one of those in the Wolves match had gone in we would have won that. That's without even really trying.
