Sam Surridge

Eddie Yates

Ian Bowyer
I suppose if we're going to consider the Dutch and Argentine top flight leagues as third rate then one could probably say the same of MLS, although it is ranked ahead of both of those, and ahead of the English Championship.

I've said it many times before, Surridge never got a fair crack at the Prem, so I don't think we can confidently state that he's not Prem standard. In another timeline, I think he'd have surprised a lot of people, had he been given more game time. 10 minutes here and there as a sub at the end of a game is not at all sufficient to base a judgment on.
I'm not talking about or interested in Dutch or Argentinian leagues, that American league is 3rd rate and that's where Surridge is playing.

He did well for us but if you think he's PL standard then you're bonkers.
 

witneyred

Grenville Morris
I'm glad he's doing well, he couldn't quite do it in the Premiership, hard with a lot of Sub appearances, he looked a bit lightweight against Premiership defenders, we were under the cosh at the time, in fact all season.

We got decent enough money for him, I'm sure he's a bloody hero in Nashville at the moment.
 

Tricky Tourist

Geoff Thomas
I'm not talking about or interested in Dutch or Argentinian leagues, that American league is 3rd rate and that's where Surridge is playing.

He did well for us but if you think he's PL standard then you're bonkers.
I mention the Dutch and Argentine leagues because the MLS is ranked ahead of both, yet we have signed players from them who have made multiple Premier League appearances. The point being that the MLS is no longer a substandard professional league; it is in a similar ranking band to the Belgian, Dutch, Argentine and Portuguese top flight leagues.

Maybe you're right about Surridge, after all no other top flight clubs appear to have made an effort to sign him. But he's the leading scorer in MLS, ahead of Messi, and seems to have captured some of that swagger he had for us in the championship. He's now in his footballing prime, and if he continues in this scoring vein I'd be quite surprised if a bottom half PL side don't take a chance on him.
 

Eddie Yates

Ian Bowyer
I mention the Dutch and Argentine leagues because the MLS is ranked ahead of both, yet we have signed players from them who have made multiple Premier League appearances. The point being that the MLS is no longer a substandard professional league; it is in a similar ranking band to the Belgian, Dutch, Argentine and Portuguese top flight leagues.

Maybe you're right about Surridge, after all no other top flight clubs appear to have made an effort to sign him. But he's the leading scorer in MLS, ahead of Messi, and seems to have captured some of that swagger he had for us in the championship. He's now in his footballing prime, and if he continues in this scoring vein I'd be quite surprised if a bottom half PL side don't take a chance on him.
I wish Surridge all the best & I'm grateful for his contribution at Forest but I'm confident in my opinion that he's not PL standard and at 28 it's unlikely that he ever will be.

How are different leagues on different continents assessed and who by and how are rankings defined, I struggle to take Americans seriously when it comes to football, infact I struggle to them seriously at all.
 

Tricky Tourist

Geoff Thomas
I wish Surridge all the best & I'm grateful for his contribution at Forest but I'm confident in my opinion that he's not PL standard and at 28 it's unlikely that he ever will be.
Well, he did just bag a beautiful assist and goal against a top 6 EPL side at the weekend in what was a fairly competitive game. He also just turned 27 a few days ago.
How are different leagues on different continents assessed and who by and how are rankings defined, I struggle to take Americans seriously when it comes to football, infact I struggle to them seriously at all.
Haha, yeah, its a bit of a mystery but apparently draws on a range of ranking data from such bodies as UEFA, FIFA, and the International Federation of Football History & Statistics. It appears these are team performance and results-based metrics, which did surprise me when I took a quick look online, as I'd have assumed the market value of each club in a league would also be a contributing factor, but it doesn't seem to be, at least not explicitly so.
 
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Eddie Yates

Ian Bowyer
Well, he did just bag a beautiful assist and goal against a top 6 EPL side at the weekend in what was a fairly competitive game. He also just turned 27 a few days ago.

Haha, yeah, its a bit of a mystery but apparently draws on a range of ranking data from such bodies as UEFA, FIFA, and the International Federation of Football History & Statistics. It appears these are team performance and results-based metrics, which did surprise me when I took a quick look online, as I'd have assumed the market value of each club in a league would also be a contributing factor, but it doesn't seem to be, at least not explicitly so.
Not enough to convince me that Surridge is PL standard Tricky

If FIFA are involved in those league rankings then I don't need to comment further on their credibility
 

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Viv Anderson
Difference with the MLS is they have a sprinkling of really good players but a load of absolute cloggers too.

It’s perfect for Surridge as the standard of the defences for the most part are lower champ/top end League 1.

Honestly made up for the lad as he seemed a really good egg. He’s earning a good whack and is a star over there. Why would he want to come back to probably earn less and play in the Champ when he can be smashing it over there?

I’m surprised more of those top end Champ players who aren’t PL quality don’t end up in other leagues where they can be bigger fish.
 

Steve Stone’s Brylcreem

First Team Squad
Difference with the MLS is they have a sprinkling of really good players but a load of absolute cloggers too.

It’s perfect for Surridge as the standard of the defences for the most part are lower champ/top end League 1.

Honestly made up for the lad as he seemed a really good egg. He’s earning a good whack and is a star over there. Why would he want to come back to probably earn less and play in the Champ when he can be smashing it over there?

I’m surprised more of those top end Champ players who aren’t PL quality don’t end up in other leagues where they can be bigger fish.
I’d imagine you don’t get half the abuse in USA as well.
 

Osiris

Geoff Thomas
Always liked Sam but not sure he's got what it takes to score regularly in the Premier League

I think it was one goal he scored that season we came up? Not sure how many minutes he got though so I may be being a bit harsh on him
 

weejockmcplop

Jack Burkitt
Always liked Sam but not sure he's got what it takes to score regularly in the Premier League

I think it was one goal he scored that season we came up? Not sure how many minutes he got though so I may be being a bit harsh on him
You never know though.
Some players are just form players, and his form is insane where he is now. If he was ever to be a Premier League striker, now is the perfect time for him to give it a go.

He never had a proper run in the team for us, even in the Championship.
 

Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "w**ksy"
No chance I’d leave Nashville if I was him unless the money offered by Wolves was dumb.

He’s scoring for fun and I’d rather live in Nashville than nice places in the UK never mind Wolverhampton.
Generally I agree, but around 10-12 years ago Nashville not only slapped a $10k fine on prostitution, but they also bought in a 3ft law to strip clubs where dancers have to maintain a 3ft physical distance from clients.

Massive downer. At places like Conrads and Spearmint Rhinos you'd feel insulted if the girls weren't telling you to suck their tiddies whilst they sat on your lap.

So I can see why he may be considering a move.
 

Hawkeye1947

First Team Squad
I know some people will initially say Surridge no way. When you look at the amount of goals he has scored in the States I think he would fit well in our squad. I could never understand why we let him go.
 
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