Nikola Milenković / Никола Миленковић - „The SERBINATOR“

I wonder whether our Serbinator and his family will try to emulate celebrating a traditional Orthodox Easter in Nottingham, what with it being before a crucial matchday and everything. It might not be nearly as important as Christmas in England or the US, but Easter is pretty damn important in Orthodox tradition, especially if you're more of the devout kind (I'm not particularly, but the vast majority in Greece are).

It definitely involves fasting for the entire week up to Easter - not Ramadan-style, but staying off meat and all other animal products, and even olive oil on Good Friday (tomorrow). You have to attend/follow the Epitaph on Good Friday in the evening, and most definitely be at a church some time before midnight on Saturday, to celebrate the Ascension. After midnight there is a BIG meal with a main course of soup made with liver, giblets and dill, and then on Easter Sunday we traditionally cook lamb - in Greece it's almost imperative that it's spit-roasted (a whole lamb that is). I did spend the 2002 Easter in Nottingham because it was much later than the Catholic one and, despite not being a particularly religious person, it's probably the one time I voluntarily went to church in my life (the Orthodox Patriarchy is on the way to the University campus) and attended mass, and also made a roast lamb lunch for my housemates on Sunday. It was not the same though, and was probably the one and only time during my year in the city that I missed being in Greece.

Stay strong Nikola, and go easy on the lamb and eggs big man, :cool:
My wife and I visited Cyprus for Easter one year (her dad is Cypriot) and it did strike me as equivalent to Christmas here. Much as we might have Christmas dinner at home and then on Boxing Day go to someone else’s and have much the same food, we attended spit roasts on consecutive days with different parts of the extended family. My wife’s relations reckon that after Easter the hospitals and clinics are full of people with stomach complaints having fasted and avoided meat for several weeks and then gorged themselves on meat for a few days.

We also attended the church service in the evening. It lasts for hours but it seems you’re not expected to sit through it all so much as dip in and out as you see fit. It looked like most people were using it as a chance for a catch-up and a good chit-chat rather than paying much attention to the service. The bit where everyone in the church lights a candle starting from one single candle at the front is quite impressive though (if something of a health and safety risk).
 

Apollo11

Geoff Thomas
My wife and I visited Cyprus for Easter one year (her dad is Cypriot) and it did strike me as equivalent to Christmas here. Much as we might have Christmas dinner at home and then on Boxing Day go to someone else’s and have much the same food, we attended spit roasts on consecutive days with different parts of the extended family. My wife’s relations reckon that after Easter the hospitals and clinics are full of people with stomach complaints having fasted and avoided meat for several weeks and then gorged themselves on meat for a few days.

We also attended the church service in the evening. It lasts for hours but it seems you’re not expected to sit through it all so much as dip in and out as you see fit. It looked like most people were using it as a chance for a catch-up and a good chit-chat rather than paying much attention to the service. The bit where everyone in the church lights a candle starting from one single candle at the front is quite impressive though (if something of a health and safety risk).

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uptight9

First Team Squad
Is he actually religious? (genuine question)
Oh I don't know that, but in Greece being at least moderately religious is the norm. It's just how people grow up, part of the tradition. And I assume it's the same for the majority of Serbs, it's a common thing - there is a mutual sympathy between the two populations mainly because of that.
My wife and I visited Cyprus for Easter one year (her dad is Cypriot) and it did strike me as equivalent to Christmas here. Much as we might have Christmas dinner at home and then on Boxing Day go to someone else’s and have much the same food, we attended spit roasts on consecutive days with different parts of the extended family. My wife’s relations reckon that after Easter the hospitals and clinics are full of people with stomach complaints having fasted and avoided meat for several weeks and then gorged themselves on meat for a few days.

We also attended the church service in the evening. It lasts for hours but it seems you’re not expected to sit through it all so much as dip in and out as you see fit. It looked like most people were using it as a chance for a catch-up and a good chit-chat rather than paying much attention to the service. The bit where everyone in the church lights a candle starting from one single candle at the front is quite impressive though (if something of a health and safety risk).
Yup, it's exactly like that.
 

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I've seen him pre-match do that thing footballers do when they make a gesture towards the sky.
Spectacles, testicles, wallet & watch?
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
My wife and I visited Cyprus for Easter one year (her dad is Cypriot) and it did strike me as equivalent to Christmas here. Much as we might have Christmas dinner at home and then on Boxing Day go to someone else’s and have much the same food, we attended spit roasts on consecutive days with different parts of the extended family. My wife’s relations reckon that after Easter the hospitals and clinics are full of people with stomach complaints having fasted and avoided meat for several weeks and then gorged themselves on meat for a few days.

We also attended the church service in the evening. It lasts for hours but it seems you’re not expected to sit through it all so much as dip in and out as you see fit. It looked like most people were using it as a chance for a catch-up and a good chit-chat rather than paying much attention to the service. The bit where everyone in the church lights a candle starting from one single candle at the front is quite impressive though (if something of a health and safety risk).
It happens in our churches too. The Paschal Candle, which is the big candle and about 7/8 foot tall which you often see in churches all year (because they cost a lot!) is lit at the Easter Vigil service (which ideally is held between dusk on Holy Saturday - i.e. this Saturday - and dawn on Easter Sunday) which typically starts outside around a fire. The priest puts all the adornment on the candle, then lights it, and then the people light all their candles from the original candle, and then go into a dark church, listen to a load of bible readings describing the creation through to Easter (in the full RC shebang there's seven sets of bible reading - psalm - prayer) and then the Easter story is told from the start of when the ladies went to the tomb early in the morning (hence the timing!) to find it open... and then everyone renews their baptismal vows (and gets soaked with holy water by the priest), then sing a load of lovely Easter hymns and go home again until the morning... It's usually a long affair quite late at night so not all churches do the full set of readings but it is beautiful - especially when on Maundy Thursday the church is usually stripped off all decorations, cloths, icons, adornments etc and is totally bare for then and through the Good Friday liturgy.

I'm not crazily religious but I have worked in churches for a while and even in the CoE there's nothing like it all year.

The Orthodox lot take the whole idea to a totally different level though... and yes, IME they do dip in and out here too
Aaaaand eyes and ears and mouth and nose....
Hands, face, space...
 

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Found Matt Hancock's account on here 😮😆
 

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Noticed after the game last night that he's got strapping of some sort oh his right shoulder.

Hopefully nothing problematic.
 

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Red1865

First Team Squad
Noticed after the game last night that he's got strapping of some sort oh his right shoulder.

Hopefully nothing problematic.
Landed on it in last game of last international break for Serbia.
It’s not affecting him judging by his performances
Hard as nails
 

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
I saw last season's Conference League final again (we do that from time to time, as you may imagine...). Milenković was the real tragic hero of the night. He had an impeccable game, heading away all long balls, not leaving El Kaabi an inch of space throughout the match. I remember cursing him throughout the match. I didn't know him before and I was wondering how someone relatively unknown can defend so perfectly. Towards the end of the extra time he was really exhausted, and yet he managed a spectacular and timely interception before the ball reached El Kaabi just 5 minutes before the end. But seconds later he had to watch the other CB of Fiorentina lose El Kaabi, who scored the winning ball. In retrospect, I feel sorry for him. He did everything that was humanly possible for that trophy, he lost it, and it wasn't even his fault.
 

Mr H

First Team Squad
I saw last season's Conference League final again (we do that from time to time, as you may imagine...). Milenković was the real tragic hero of the night. He had an impeccable game, heading away all long balls, not leaving El Kaabi an inch of space throughout the match. I remember cursing him throughout the match. I didn't know him before and I was wondering how someone relatively unknown can defend so perfectly. Towards the end of the extra time he was really exhausted, and yet he managed a spectacular and timely interception before the ball reached El Kaabi just 5 minutes before the end. But seconds later he had to watch the other CB of Fiorentina lose El Kaabi, who scored the winning ball. In retrospect, I feel sorry for him. He did everything that was humanly possible for that trophy, he lost it, and it wasn't even his fault.
Bask in the result and enjoy re-watching the final as legendary victory. No other Greek club has done this.
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Absolutely immense today & that's his 7th goal / assist this season

People talk about player of the season but it's him without debate in my mind. The set piece transformation at both end of the pitch alone just shows how damn important Milenkovic is. He has also not missed a single minute since he made his debut against Southampton.
 

tjhooker

Grenville Morris
Absolutely immense today & that's his 7th goal / assist this season

People talk about player of the season but it's him without debate in my mind. The set piece transformation at both end of the pitch alone just shows how damn important Milenkovic is. He has also not missed a single minute since he made his debut against Southampton.
I have him a hair's breadth behind Sels. He's been magnificent. What a difference he's made.
 

valspoodle

Ian Bowyer
Interesting watching the two of them in earnest conversation at times this afternoon. Bedsides the urging Milenkovic gives the whole team from time to time.
 

hannahd

Viv Anderson
Sels is a worthy Player of the Season contender, but Milenkovic being there has improved him, so without Milenkovic Sels would not be as good in my opinion.
 

TrickyTree101

First Team Squad
Milenkovic is one of the best buys in the premiership this season. Last season the amount of goals we conceded from set pieces was 23 - it was almost like giving away a penalty eveytime the oppostion had a corner / free kick. Having him in the side has put a stop to that - and we got him for only 12 mil - and just a horrible reminder Joao Carvalho cost over 13mil - let that sink in to help explain what a great bit of business this was
 

Notcher

Steve Chettle
Was fired up in stoppage time. Wouldn’t want to mess with him.
He was even fired up in the first half when he won a goal kick after making a slide tackle which should have won a corner. He jumped up pumping his fists like he'd scored.

I reckon we could send him into Russia, the middle east and Libya and he'd sort that shit out within a few days.

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ubik

Geoff Thomas
Milenkovic is one of the best buys in the premiership this season. Last season the amount of goals we conceded from set pieces was 23 - it was almost like giving away a penalty eveytime the oppostion had a corner / free kick. Having him in the side has put a stop to that - and we got him for only 12 mil - and just a horrible reminder Joao Carvalho cost over 13mil - let that sink in to help explain what a great bit of business this was
I still rate Carvalho, worked well with Cash and Lolley.

Never the same after being clogged in a pre season friendly.

On a different subject, Milenkovic is clearly our player of the season.
 
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