Morgan Anthony Gibbs-White

[Master Yates]

I don’t think we can afford to pick up the “next” Gibbs-White. He’s just had his breakout season in the Championship. Now is the time to buy him, when he is ready to step up. Too early and he won’t make an impact in the big league.

We are going to have to recalibrate our expectations over transfer fees. Starting price when a PL club come calling is 10m nowadays.

As long as we keep a sensible wage structure, I’m sure Marinakis will spend some dough.

But at the same time, if the price is too high, we’ll move on. That’s been our M.O. under Murphy and I’m sure we’ll do the same, just at a higher level.


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[MaxiRobriguez]

I don't care about transfer fees, just don't go OTT with wages as they are what hamstring you as a club.

£20m transfer fee is the same as a £100k a week wage on a four year contract.

We need to care about transfer fees and wages.

 

[cheapseats]

I don’t think we can afford to pick up the “next” Gibbs-White. He’s just had his breakout season in the Championship. Now is the time to buy him, when he is ready to step up. Too early and he won’t make an impact in the big league.

We are going to have to recalibrate our expectations over transfer fees. Starting price when a PL club come calling is 10m nowadays.

As long as we keep a sensible wage structure, I’m sure Marinakis will spend some dough.

But at the same time, if the price is too high, we’ll move on. That’s been our M.O. under Murphy and I’m sure we’ll do the same, just at a higher level.


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You are of course right Real. And ultimately its less about the fee and more about getting the right players because if they are good you recoup your money or make a profit.

The finances are a nightmare-I wonder what the "cost" of promotion is i.e. the money that we will sink just for going up-player and staff bonuses (will there be clauses in contracts that give a 20% wage uplift for players?), new contracts to protect assets and the costs of holding on to the key loanees (who if lost will mean we have to spent tons on replacements).

 

[Omar Devone Little]

Would be a great signing and exactly the kind of player we should target - young, homegrown, quality with potential to get better. I think it would take more than £20m though.

We value Johnson at what, £25m+? So MGW would be similarly expensive, surely?

 

[Heffing Psycho!]

Would be a great signing and exactly the kind of player we should target - young, homegrown, quality with potential to get better. I think it would take more than £20m though.

We value Johnson at what, £25m+? So MGW would be similarly expensive, surely?

Suppose it depends on whether Wolves want to keep him or whether they think £20m can get them something that'd fit their style more, sounds as though they're going for a rebuild this summer so perhaps they want the cash.

 

[Harry1982]

Would be a great signing and exactly the kind of player we should target - young, homegrown, quality with potential to get better. I think it would take more than £20m though.

We value Johnson at what, £25m+? So MGW would be similarly expensive, surely?

To be fair I think white was better then Johnson in the semi, seems to have more physicality to his game

 

[Harry1982]

Suppose it depends on whether Wolves want to keep him or whether they think £20m can get them something that'd fit their style more, sounds as though they're going for a rebuild this summer so perhaps they want the cash.

If they sell neves they maybe wanting white as a replacement. In terms of ambition there ownership seems to have settled on a mid table side, since the early ambition of wanting to break into the top 4

 

[Mr RayReardon]

Would be a great signing... That's a lot of money though. Probably too much

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[Omar Devone Little]

To be fair I think white was better then Johnson in the semi, seems to have more physicality to his game

Johnson has been amazing obviously this season but in basically every massive game we've had since April he's not been at the races really except for the away play semi. Partly because he's a wanted man now for defences but there may be an element of fatigue with the rigours of a long Championship season. I think it's clear though that there is still a lot of development needed and he is nowhere near the finished article.

 

[BryanRoy22]

I've heard that Wolves are going to give him a go next season so I doubt this one will happen.

He's a top talent of course, and knows Steve Cooper from their England days.

 

[PynchonForest]

I think it is key that we sign a couple of our new players as talents who are "off the beaten path" , much like Laryea, who cost 1 million. I still think he can do a job for us at right wing back next season. I think we can shell out 20 million for one , maybe two players, but that is it. The others will have to be loans and "unknown" talents, and maybe a hope that one or two of our academy players can surge between now and training camp. Someone mentionned us becoming a "Southampton" type of club and that is probably about as good a model as we can aspire to, for the next few years. Van Dijk cost Celtic 2.6 million, then Southampton 13 million, as but one example. There are gems out there, always. We just need to find a couple of them.

 

[Rzar]

I don’t think we can afford to pick up the “next” Gibbs-White. He’s just had his breakout season in the Championship. Now is the time to buy him, when he is ready to step up. Too early and he won’t make an impact in the big league.

We are going to have to recalibrate our expectations over transfer fees. Starting price when a PL club come calling is 10m nowadays.

As long as we keep a sensible wage structure, I’m sure Marinakis will spend some dough.

But at the same time, if the price is too high, we’ll move on. That’s been our M.O. under Murphy and I’m sure we’ll do the same, just at a higher level.


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Exactly, we are in a position to get these players now. MGW can only improve.

Buy for 10 sell for 50 should be the outlook now. Not buy for 2 sell for 10.

 

[DizzyBala]

The difficult with us and Wolves is that if we get our skates on, we'll be competing for the same kind of places in the league as them next season so dealing with them would be at a premium.
I cannot see them selling him given that he's proven his quality last year, it would be like us selling Johnson to Fulham.

 

[Rzar]

Not really. It would be more like us selling Mighten to Fulham.

He has been at Wolves for a long time, he has always been on the fringes and they didn't even back him last January. Maybe he will want to go somewhere where he is guarenteed football now at his age.

 

[Omar Devone Little]

More I think about this the more I think it's a non-starter.

 

[RedRobbo]

£20m?
Someone’s having a laugh.

 

[BryanRoy22]

I wouldn't pay £20m for him but I'd try to do a deal where it might reach that figure if he delivers.

 

[Ashley]

I wouldn't pay £20m for him but I'd try to do a deal where it might reach that figure if he delivers.

Something like £12m with various add-ons that can eventually reach £20m would be a decent deal IMO.

I don't think we are in a position to chuck a flat £20m on a player who is unproven in the Premier League yet though.

 

[Calvin Plummer]

It's hard to see how he isn't worth as much as BJ...

 

[Danga]

Exactly. We are all scoffing at 18/20m for Brennan but then saying MGW is only worth £12m?

 

[Ashley]

I think the key thing is that Brennan is more valuable to us than MGW is to Wolves. One is a vital first team player at a club that would be reluctant sellers, the other is a squad player who has been farmed out on loan and seems to be openly up for sale.

A player who is a valued first team regular for his club will always demand a premium.

 

[Rzar]

£12m + £3.5m payment for 2 years every year we stay up.

I agree with the comment above, I dunno how people can say £20m is too much and at the same time justifying saying Johnson is worth £20m+ in the Championship with 1 year left on his deal.

MGW is as equally talented as Brennan.

 

[WSM EXILE]

I work with a Wolves fan, I'll ask him if he can find out if there are any rumblings on their forums etc, see what he says

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[WSM EXILE]

Matt at work just confirming that Wolves have offered MGW a new and improved contract and it's with him at the moment, they need him to stay hopefully due to Neves leaving.

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[MaxiRobriguez]

It's hard to see how he isn't worth as much as BJ...

Three things:

1) BJ has a better output rate in terms of goals and assists, and has electric pace that you can't teach.
2) BJ slammed his penalty home in a high profile game, MGW did not. One dealt with the pressure.
3) The Forest side was built around playing to BJ's strengths. MGW didn't even play for Wolves for most of the season.

The only argument Wolves have for wanting the same money as we wanted for BJ is because they're an established PL side and £20m to us (then, anyway) was a lot and £20m to them isn't so much, so they can afford to be more demanding.