Lewis Grabban

[Frank Clark’s Tash]

We're not likely to be signing Ronaldo or Ibrahimović any time soon.

So back in the land of relevancey, Andy Cole, Jonathan Greening, Neil Lennon and George Boateng are just 4, ahem 'seasoned pros' (with far better pedigrees than Grabban) who we did actually sign, and who were utter toss by the time their mid 30s rolled around.

Regrettably things start going south around that age, whether you like it or not!

 

[valspoodle]

I suppose we are fortunate that Lewis is actually playing at the club, and thus under close scrutiny. Unlike some of those mentioned who just turned up out of the darkness and sorted their pensions, with no proper due diligence.

 

[Notcher]

We're not likely to be signing Ronaldo or Ibrahimović any time soon.

So back in the land of relevancey, Andy Cole, Jonathan Greening, Neil Lennon and George Boateng are just 4, ahem 'seasoned pros' (with far better pedigrees than Grabban) who we did actually sign, and who were utter toss by the time their mid 30s rolled around.

Regrettably things start going south around that age, whether you like it or not!

Like VP said, the major difference being that we signed them without knowing what they would play like under us. Grabban has been here and done the business and continues to do so. Putting his situation side by side to those who were brought in isn't a fair comparison.

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[Master Yates]

We're not likely to be signing Ronaldo or Ibrahimović any time soon.

So back in the land of relevancey, Andy Cole, Jonathan Greening, Neil Lennon and George Boateng are just 4, ahem 'seasoned pros' (with far better pedigrees than Grabban) who we did actually sign, and who were utter toss by the time their mid 30s rolled around.

Regrettably things start going south around that age, whether you like it or not!

I’d be inclined to agree with you if we were talking about giving Grabban a 3 year deal. Lennon was 36 when we signed him, Cole 37 and Boateng 36. Admittedly Greening was 32 but Grabban has already shown more than he did at an older age.

Grabban will be 34 in January.

For comparison, Cole was still scoring regularly in the Premier League at 35, Celtic were still turning down PL bids for Lennon at 35 and Boateng played 29 times in the Premier League at 34/35.

No argument from me that they were all shot by the time we signed them, but there’s a big difference between a 34 year old who has looked after himself and a 37 year old. The dropoff from year to year at the end of players’ careers shows that.

Grabban would still be an asset in this league next season, so I’d definitely offer him another year, then take it from there. As soon as he noticeably drops off, let some other mugs be the Forest to his Andy Cole.

But until then, I’d definitely keep him around.


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[Rzar]

Like VP said, the major difference being that we signed them without knowing what they would play like under us. Grabban has been here and done the business and continues to do so. Putting his situation side by side to those who were brought is isn't a fair comparison.

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It is not like Grabban is showing clear decline either.

For me, he is the exact same player he was when he joined.

 

[Raymondo Ponte']

He's on far too much money but deserves another year.

There's a new mosque being built in West Bridgford isn't there? He can pop in there before matches and say a prayer for a win !!

 

[Notcher]

Very good noises being made by Lewis regarding him staying. Says he is happy here and would like to stay as long as he can. Hopefully we can nail him down to a one year extension with an option for another year. I think that would be the sensible approach for all parties.

https://www.nottinghampost.com/spor...tingham-forest-lewis-grabban-contract-6225811

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[gamble]

We're not likely to be signing Ronaldo or Ibrahimović any time soon.

So back in the land of relevancey, Andy Cole, Jonathan Greening, Neil Lennon and George Boateng are just 4, ahem 'seasoned pros' (with far better pedigrees than Grabban) who we did actually sign, and who were utter toss by the time their mid 30s rolled around.

Regrettably things start going south around that age, whether you like it or not!

The attitude of the player needs taking into account, Billy Sharp, Kevin Phillips, Jamie Vardy, were or are still banging in the goals past 34/35. Some players are naturally gifted but poor trainers, others are not naturally gifted but work hard to stay fit other (like Ronaldo) are both and stay at the top of the game their whole career. Youl find the players that had to work hard will stay playing longer as they will train hard to stay up there.

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[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

34 in Jan, it's a tricky decision.

I'd like to see him stay though for sure.

 

[EmmersonForest4]

I would have him stay providing he takes less money, on saturday it was criminal he didnt pass the ball and that comes from someone who played as a striker. Football is about percentages and I have no problem in striker taking pot shots but if someone is in a better position and literally has a tap in you have to pass.

As a striker I enjoyed assists as well as goals thats the attitude to have.

 

[Matt]

I would have him stay providing he takes less money, on saturday it was criminal he didnt pass the ball and that comes from someone who played as a striker. Football is about percentages and I have no problem in striker taking pot shots but if someone is in a better position and literally has a tap in you have to pass.

As a striker I enjoyed assists as well as goals thats the attitude to have.

He made the chance himself and absolutely had every right to take the shot. He looked up before either player got across the goal so he got his head down and worked his angle.

No complaints from me. The ironic thing about th ‘he should have passed’ brigade is when he did square it Garner missed the ball in front of an empty net!

 

[Erik]

No complaints from me. The ironic thing about th ‘he should have passed’ brigade is when he did square it Garner missed the ball in front of an empty net!

That was Grabban's fault too.

He should have shot.

Any good striker would have backed himself to score....

 

[GreeksBearingGifts]

One tactical point I did not understand was keeping Grabban on the side throughout the game. OK, it makes sense for part of the game but when you have your best attacker far from his normal position throughout the match you make things easier for the defenders. The trick might make sense with Johnson as a false nine but it made zero sense with Zinkernagel in the middle.

 

[Red Ray's Redlist]

One tactical point I did not understand was keeping Grabban on the side throughout the game. OK, it makes sense for part of the game but when you have your best attacker far from his normal position throughout the match you make things easier for the defenders. The trick might make sense with Johnson as a false nine but it made zero sense with Zinkernagel in the middle.

He worked back on the left supporting Bong a lot.
Grabs is often quite selfless so I wonder if it was a tactical issue to help out with Lowe being out.

 

[Rzar]

One tactical point I did not understand was keeping Grabban on the side throughout the game. OK, it makes sense for part of the game but when you have your best attacker far from his normal position throughout the match you make things easier for the defenders. The trick might make sense with Johnson as a false nine but it made zero sense with Zinkernagel in the middle.

That is common if you play against a team that play with a lot of width and you have a back 3.

The two wide men split and the attacking midfielder stays central to occupy the strikers role. If one doesn't stay up it becomes negative & WBA don't mess about with it at the back, they just boot it forward so it makes having 2 upfront almost pointless. Your strikers cover out wide, that stops the opponent from switching it side to side with their wingbacks unmarked.

Man Utd / Man City the other week, City's wing backs were just constantly free and Man Utd had 2 men upfront doing nothing whilst their wingback is 2v1 all game, was like playing with 10 men.

As Ray also said probably to help Bong out a bit as well. You don't want a 1 v 1 with Bong nevermind a 2 v 1.

 

[Rzar]

He is playing really well at the minute (who isn't?) and looks like he is really enjoying his football, he seems more than happy to do his defending out wide like I said he was doing above.

 

[Thomas]

I love when he does that turn of pace to beat a fullback, think he did it previously against Coopers Swansea under Sabri lol.

 

[BryanRoy]

Best we've ever seen him in a Forest shirt in his most forward-thinking Forest team he has played in?

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

Best we've ever seen him in a Forest shirt in his most forward-thinking Forest team he has played in?

He must be relishing finally getting to play in a team like this after having to feed off scraps for so long.

 

[Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD.]

Best we've ever seen him in a Forest shirt in his most forward-thinking Forest team he has played in?

I'd say so.

I've been critical of him in the past, but he's certainly pulled his finger out of late.

 

[BryanRoy22]

I'd say so.

I've been critical of him in the past, but he's certainly pulled his finger out of late.

Sometimes it is the case that some players will try harder for one manager over another, but I honestly don't think that was the case with Grabban.

He always looked to be running around for Hughton, often dropping deep into midfield to help with low-line tactics in order to retrieve the ball.

The tactics and lack of service was stifling him. He was made captain under Hughton (which many suspected was too much of a burden and causing him to lose form) and is still captain.

If he wasn't putting in the effort, I don't think he would have remained captain under both.

 

[Notcher]

Sometimes it is the case that some players will try harder for one manager over another, but I honestly don't think that was the case with Grabban.

He always looked to be running around for Hughton, often dropping deep into midfield to help with low-line tactics in order to retrieve the ball.

The tactics and lack of service was stifling him. He was made captain under Hughton (which many suspected was too much of a burden and causing him to lose form) and is still captain.

If he wasn't putting in the effort, I don't think he would have remained captain under both.

I think the fact that Cooper has retained him as Captain puts it to bed. Effort is non negotiable with Cooper and he's mentioned how much of a positive influence is around the place and that they talk regularly. I've never had an issue with Grabban at all, as you mentioned his work rate has always been excellent for a player in the twilight of his career especially with his willingness to even drop deeper and run the channels.

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[Flaggers]

He did miss 2 absolute sitters on Saturday though....

 

[Statto]

He did miss 2 absolute sitters on Saturday though....

He always will, all strikers do. When he has 1-2 chances per game then it's much less likely he will score than if he has 5-6.

The likes of Grabban, Billy Sharp, Earnshaw when he was playing, always going to get a goal around every 2-3 games at this level, but they still need the right service.

 

[Captain Sinister]

I think the fact that Cooper has retained him as Captain puts it to bed. Effort is non negotiable with Cooper and he's mentioned how much of a positive influence is around the place and that they talk regularly. I've never had an issue with Grabban at all, as you mentioned his work rate has always been excellent for a player in the twilight of his career especially with his willingness to even drop deeper and run the channels.

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Twilight?
Grabban is 33, going on 34.
Crikey I hung up my boots at 50!
Those games in my late 40's... like Miss Jean Brodie, I was in my prime!
Lewis is in his prime now...