Injuries investigation

[Raymondo Ponte']

http://www.nottinghampost.com/Notti...on-crippling/story-21071566-detail/story.html

There was something obviously wrong, it's unprecedented.

 

[McKenzie]

http://www.nottinghampost.com/Notti...on-crippling/story-21071566-detail/story.html

There was something obviously wrong, it's unprecedented.

Don't worry he's been sacked!

 

[Raymondo Ponte']

I just hope none of the players were feigning injuries (notoriously difficult to prove).

IF it is proved, they should be banned from football altogether imo.

 

[Le Juif Rouge]

Regimental Sergeant Major Pearce VC.......will make them "Man up" and stop all this damn malingering !!!!!!!!!

 

[Beasty]

Good to see we are at least investigating, something was very wrong, every season you do have a bit of injury crisis normally but this was something else.

 

[thehockleyhustler]

Was obvious as the season went on that something wasn't right.

 

[MansfieldRed]

This is something I was asking and considering in another thread a while back and this is what I meant. Have they been getting enough fitness training or, on the other end of the scale, have they been over-trained leaving them on the knife edge of injury proneness? It's good that the club are investigating if there were practices that was leaving players in a position where they were more likely to get an injury.

 

[Ravi]

There needs to be proper attention paid to this by the people at the club, not just 'having a discussion'.
Hopefully some lessons can be learned, because no club can cope with the high level of long term injuries sustained last season.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

Heretics! The lot of you!

 

[incapable hulk]

Don't worry he's been sacked!

What was curious though, was that the injuries were continuing right up until the end - after Brazil had been in charge for 2 months or so. Most of the backroom staff were long gone, so surely the training regime would have changed?

Hopefully its much better next season, and we haven't just gotten a bunch of players made from biscuits.

What's concerning, is that a fair few of them do have a history of injuries.

 

[McKenzie]

If your body had been hammered for months it isn't just going to improve in a month or so. You would still be susceptible to wear and tear.

 

[Beasty]

I doubt Brazil came in and radically overhauled things, maybe a bit lighter, caretakers rarely do, that's why getting someone in would have been much better at getting a response.

I do wonder how much we can expect to see from players like Wilson, Hobbs and Lansbury though.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

What was curious though, was that the injuries were continuing right up until the end - after Brazil had been in charge for 2 months or so. Most of the backroom staff were long gone, so surely the training regime would have changed?

:yes: between that and this little bit......

Many of the problems were picked up during matches

......whoever spins it to successfully blame it all on "him" is gunna be worth their wage

 

[Beasty]

To be fair what you do in training and on a day to day basis, preperation in the days leading up to a game, correct stretching before exercise etc affects the likeliness of developing a muscular injury. Fatigue can be a factor too.

I'm no sports scientist but it would be naive to say the two are not related, especially in strains and off the ball non-contact injuries, which can even be predicted. That's why we need to investigate.

EDIT: Seatpitch just linked this

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenals-injury-problems-down-incompetent-3233644

 

[tropix]

I just hope none of the players were feigning injuries (notoriously difficult to prove).

IF it is proved, they should be banned from football altogether imo.

Jara being the prime example. 'Oh, my groin feels a bit tight. I've been going through the motions anyway, but I'd like a proper rest before the World Cup. Cheers pols'

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

Jara being the prime example. 'Oh, my groin feels a bit tight. I've been going through the motions anyway, but I'd like a proper rest before the World Cup. Cheers pols'

Spot on.

 

[Wes' Organ]

Surface too firm at the academy? Couldn't that be a factor in stress fractures and joint injuries.

 

[Frank Clark’s Tash]

Stable, door, horse, bolted.

 

[Tnewton_1988]

Didn't Newcastle have similar problems re their injury crisis? I:e training ground surfaces? I've been saying for ages Billy Davies high intensity training ran players into the ground.

 

[matt1982]

whatever the reason for these injuries, or if it was just bad luck, the worry is that they've had them and in some cases have a history of them, eg cohen, hobbs, vaughan. so we have to find a way of keeping these key players fit if we're to achieve anything

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

Was Cohens the same knee he did before?

Hobbs has smashed his ankle in, has he done that before?

Vaughan broke his patella, you only do that through taking a knock, unless that'a recurring problem?

Genuinely curious if they've had the same injuries before or they're one offs, same with the other players?

 

[tropix]

I think Cohen's was the only recurring one, excluding Dex. Hobbs has done his cruciate in the past, but not his ankle. Not as far as I'm aware anyway

 

[BryanRoy22]

Simon Cox got injured a couple of times and kept rushing himself back too.

There were a few weird ones, and a few injuries that made you think, it can't be that the players are stressed/morale has dropped and they don't want to play for Billy. Because some of them played for him before.

That's the way I look at it anyway.

 

[Ravi]

Stable, door, horse, bolted.

Not if the outcome of an investigation could help for next season.

 

[puds1970]

It's not only the amount or length of the injuries. It was a bit alarming that a few came back for a Game or 2 and had big setbacks which could effect them long term .
How much of this was down to the players saying they were OK and how much was down to either bad advice from the medics or being rushed back due to the pressure of achieving results?.
I would thing these are a few of the questions being asked,