Home and Away Memberships 2022/23

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RedRobbo

Viv Anderson
Strummer the Trust has never claimed to speak on behalf of all supporters. It has also made efforts to bring supporter groups together without success, but it will be trying again soon - the Fan Led Review requires this if the supporter view is to be as influential as it needs to be.

What is frustrating is that too many people have no regard for the real facts and make quotes which are utterly wrong - such as the Trust membership, it’s influence, and it’s impact. When challenged no-one backs it up but instead post more non-facts. Sadly this is a feature of modern life.

I made a genuine offer to talk directly with - that offer stands, but requires you to make contact with me.

Those who believe the Trust is an elite few could not be more wrong - we are genuine people with a largely working class background but with a huge love and affinity for our football club. The Board is elected by and accountable to its sizeable membership; it is scrutinised by the FSA, and accountable to the FCA. We work actively at local and national level to promote the interests of Forest supporters. We also undertake community initiatives to help disadvantaged groups, to promote diversity, and to support those with mental health challenges.

Every Forest supporter group has its own ambitions and distinct approach - some have formal accountable structures and some don’t, some have modest annual charges and some don’t. The reality is that the great majority of Forest supporters belong to no group - therefore canvassing a representative view of all supporters is virtually impossible.

These groups need to co-exist whilst fulfilling their own roles. Some clubs have achieved this by recognising the value of working together; other clubs have been unable to break down the barriers between supporter groups and therefore have less traction and influence with their club. This is a real problem if we are to see the benefits of the Fan Led Review.

This forum is very different to the supporters groups as it is ‘a forum for discussion’ with widely ranging views which rarely can achieve consensus, let alone present an agreed position to the Club. It performs an important but very different role to Supporter Groups.

My background has required honesty and integrity throughout a long career. I never criticise other Supporter Groups but respect the work they do. I respect the views of others which may differ from mine as long as they are factually correct. The Trust has a similar approach and genuinely holds the Club to account which is why there is an extensive report to members on the recent Q & A. There will be a further recorded Q & A with the Club Chairman based on member questions.

I respect yourself and others who run and moderate this forum, and acknowledge the time and commitment you give. However, when posts are factually incorrect and abusive to the Trust or me I will respond.

Cohesion not division for the benefit of all Forest supporters should be the objective.
The Trust is being used by the club as a mouthpiece to communicate to fans. This latest ‘q&a’ reeks of a sudden desperate need to explain themselves.
I refuse to accept that the questions posed originated from the Trust - it smacks of a convenient ( last minute ) need to explain themselves.
Unacceptable - and Forza quite rightly responded.
 

Strummer

Orel Mangala Fan Club
Strummer please read the response above from haych which you liked.

The Trust has a membership to which it is responsible although there are often shared views across most supporters.

The Trust has a proper standing and a Constitution which means it has to act on behalf of its members, and is accountable to FAC. It‘s why it is allowed affiliate status with the FSA - and why for example Forza aren’t (no criticism).

My post is about uninformed posting and also the ridiculous comment of Haych. There are some posters who choose to always criticise the Trust without evidence - I’ve resisted the temptation to respond so far but that post is incorrect.

The Fan Led Review needs Supporter Groups to come together - at NFFC we share a common bond - it’s in our DNA. Sadly I’ll-informed comments will divide the supporter base to all our detriment.

You have my email - please feel to contact me - maybe we can have a zoom.

Our Club is back at the top table with an ambitious owner and a great manager - that should be the supporter focus.
I will take you up on this last bit - prob next week though, I have a mountain of work on this week!
 

YellowBelly Red

First Team Squad
Its quite telling that both the Trust and Forza have identified serious issues regarding ticketing. It seems that concerns from both parties, prior to implementation, were not taken on board by the club. The system just isn't up to what is expected.
Whether anything gets done, remains to be seen, but any help from either party is to be applauded and welcomed.
 

Strummer

Orel Mangala Fan Club
Its quite telling that both the Trust and Forza have identified serious issues regarding ticketing. It seems that concerns from both parties, prior to implementation, were not taken on board by the club. The system just isn't up to what is expected.
Whether anything gets done, remains to be seen, but any help from either party is to be applauded and welcomed.
Not that I am defending the club, but the recent Q&A with the Trust does state that the club have effectively outsourced the ticketing system to Ticketmaster, and that there are issues, which they acknowledge, and they do say they are going to raise this with Ticketmaster.

We can of course criticise the club for going with Ticketmaster, but if they have entered into a contract with Ticketmaster to provide a ticketing system, and that system either has issues, or is not fit for purpose, then it is the responsibility of Ticketmaster to sort it out, because it is their platform, and if it doesn’t work, and the club have contracted them to make it work, then it isn’t necessarily the direct fault of the club.
 

Flagman

May not be the best moderator on LTLF, but he's...
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This forum is very different to the supporters groups as it is ‘a forum for discussion’ with widely ranging views which rarely can achieve consensus, let alone present an agreed position to the Club. It performs an important but very different role to Supporter Groups.
How does the Trust arrive at its "agreed position" without discussion?
 

Barry

Where's me hammer?
The supporters club defo went down the "I speak for everyone" path at some point and lost a lot of favour, no matter how anyone wants to deny it, they did.

The fact they were still having their Pow Wows on matchdays in the boat club that was alleged trying to fuck the club for more money by getting people to send in objections probably sums up the situation as well.

Anybody with any unity would have been out of there straight away, banner on the balcony gone and all, see how those supposedly objecting pay your bills... but they didn't, why?

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Bonalair

John Robertson
The supporters club defo went down the "I speak for everyone" path at some point and lost a lot of favour, no matter how anyone wants to deny it, they did.

The fact they were still having their Pow Wows on matchdays in the boat club that was alleged trying to fuck the club for more money by getting people to send in objections probably sums up the situation as well.

Anybody with any unity would have been out of there straight away, banner on the balcony gone and all, see how those supposedly objecting pay your bills... but they didn't, why?

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Well it’s because they’re in the pay of the club and were spreading its agenda (which is basically ‘we hate the fans’) and dressing it up as fan questions, so probably they were on the inside trying to bring down the rowing club from within on the clubs behalf. Possibly by digging out part of the foundations to ensure it collapsed. Also the new stand isn’t for the fans it’s so the reptilian overloads have somewhere to land their chemtrails which will be beamed in with 5g then spread through a scamdemic.

#itk
 

Master Yates

John Robertson
The supporters club defo went down the "I speak for everyone" path at some point and lost a lot of favour, no matter how anyone wants to deny it, they did.

The fact they were still having their Pow Wows on matchdays in the boat club that was alleged trying to fuck the club for more money by getting people to send in objections probably sums up the situation as well.

Anybody with any unity would have been out of there straight away, banner on the balcony gone and all, see how those supposedly objecting pay your bills... but they didn't, why?

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You bring this up a lot Baz and I like it every time. Why would anyone who claims to have Forest’s interests at heart spend penny one on them boat nonces?


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StuC

The Boss
I'd also like to know this and notice its gone unanswered so far

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According to the minutes of the Board Meeting from November 2021

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If the Trust Documents page is accurate then no Board Meeting has taken place since then so no upto date figures are available.

According to the accounts of July 21 the figure was 809 (with 12 junior members)

The Chair report for 2022 (uploaded in January 22) quotes the 700 figure from the November meeting
 

incapable hulk

Best served cold
Strummer the Trust has never claimed to speak on behalf of all supporters.

Naming it "The Nottingham Forest Supporters Trust" gives the perception that it is the main voice of the fans. Most people who see that, as well as the trust having direct access to the club, and will assume that is the case, rather than it representing only the interests of a small few who are willing to pay.

I don't think they appreciate that connection and the confusion it generates when they then say they only represent the interests of their members.
 

StuC

The Boss
Naming it "The Nottingham Forest Supporters Trust" gives the perception that it is the main voice of the fans. Most people who see that, as well as the trust having direct access to the club, and will assume that is the case, rather than it representing only the interests of a small few who are willing to pay.

I don't think they appreciate that connection and the confusion it generates when they then say they only represent the interests of their members.

It's actually registered as the "1865 Supporters Society Limited" on Companies House/FCA
 
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Barry

Where's me hammer?
You bring this up a lot Baz and I like it every time. Why would anyone who claims to have Forest’s interests at heart spend penny one on them boat nonces?


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We used to go in for a drink, stopped until the situation was clarified. It's never been clarified so we've never been back.

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Louth Red

Youth Team
How does the Trust arrive at its "agreed position" without discussion?
Very easily - it seeks their views either formally ahead of a Q & A with the Chairman, or informally through the website with an easy option for members to raise queries or questions. It also uses many forms of social media to provide information and invite response.
It also has a structure whereby any member can stand for Board election, it holds an AGM - the last one in January by zoom, independently hosted to facilitate and encourage attendance with members able to give notice of questions. The AGM is recorded and available to members.
in addition the Trust is open to improvement - the FSA are currently undertaking an independent governance assessment of the Constitution (currently at the latest 2022 governance model approved at the AGM) and related policies.
Furthermore the Board have a meeting ahead of the West Ham game to review its procedures and services independently scrutinised by very senior FSA staff.
Ask other supporter groups how their record on openness and governance compares.
In the past two years the Trust has, for example, won a national award for mental health initiative, run arguably the best My City My Shirt initiative to promote Diversity, and run successful Food Collections ahead of some games at the City Ground.
The Trust is one of only two Clubs nationally to embrace it’s Womens Team in its Constitution, and one of a handful of clubs to have a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with the club.
In the past year the Trust has been highly active in the FSA raising multiple evidenced based issues ahead of it’s formal structured meetings with the most senior officials of FA, PL & EFL.

All the above can be independently verified.

I get that some will never respect the work or purpose of the Trust - the Trust accepts that. How many of the critics have read the Fan Led Review of Football - making supporter views count. It urges supporter groups to work together with the club.

Read the Forza paper on ticketing which draws reference to the Trust Q & A with the Club Chairman. Two supporter groups raising the biggest supporter concern, albeit in differing ways.

Calling out the Trust with no basis of fact or evidence is easy.

The Trust is an independent body which openly holds the Club to account.

Despite the unproven criticism the Trust will continue to represent its members views to help deliver improvements to all supporters of our great Club. It will also continue to actively work with the national body for supporters (FSA) to create the momentum for a greater voice for supporters at national level.
 

Louth Red

Youth Team
I'd also like to know this and notice its gone unanswered so far

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Zoe - I have praised you openly in this Forum, especially over the Billy Sharp issue. This comment disappoints me - the post was made at 12.20am in response to my post at 11.12pm. You will know that I’m no spring chicken with serious underlying health issues so I do have other priorities this morning.
You will see that the question has now been answered.
 

Strummer

Orel Mangala Fan Club
I don’t think the issue is that everyone does not respect the work the Trust has done - considerable as it is (read their website, it is all there), and absolutely I tend to think the majority of football supporters are supporting the fan-led initiative, or at least contributed to it during the public consultation process.

It is just that for me, when the Trust got going (2018?) we had some difficulties with some of their members, who seemed to be saying to many of the rest of us that they considered themselves the “official” touch point to the football club, and that they would be that contact point, and that everything would go through them (I am paraphrasing a bit here, but that is certainly the attitude we got) and that they didn’t need our help, thanks very much; again, there is a previous thread knocking around on here about it. And it did get a bit messy (so some moderation may have been involved).

Of course, those people may no longer be in any way involved, and it may be completely different now. If so, good. I am certainly convinced there is a role for the Trust as a formal organisation, similar to there being a role for informal groups such as Forza Garibaldi.

It is good to read the Trust is now accepting input from all sorts of platforms too. As previously, we said before, we would be willing to help collate information from this forum, and pass it on, if they wanted. That offer remains open.

But; no one group should try and claim primacy over another (not that I am suggesting the Trust are doing this now). We are all Forest fans at the end of the day, and we want to present a untied front for the club, but respecting each other, and not dissolve into something resembling the last few pages of George Orwell’s Animal Farm.
 

YellowBelly Red

First Team Squad
Seems that the ball is now in Ticketmaster's court. Lets see if they can fix all the highlighted problems, regarding purchase of tickets.

I would still like to see all Supporters Groups put continued pressure on the club, regarding ticket purchase policy.
 

Rich

Rice IV
Not that I am defending the club, but the recent Q&A with the Trust does state that the club have effectively outsourced the ticketing system to Ticketmaster, and that there are issues, which they acknowledge, and they do say they are going to raise this with Ticketmaster.

We can of course criticise the club for going with Ticketmaster, but if they have entered into a contract with Ticketmaster to provide a ticketing system, and that system either has issues, or is not fit for purpose, then it is the responsibility of Ticketmaster to sort it out, because it is their platform, and if it doesn’t work, and the club have contracted them to make it work, then it isn’t necessarily the direct fault of the club.

It should probably also be acknowledged that Ticketmaster are the world leaders in ticketed events, and as such Forest going with them would seem to suggest that they’ve looked for the best option.

People need to break their criticism into one of two categories, but they struggle differentiate. There are system issues and then there are procedural issues.

Forest can be held to account for the procedural, but not the system.

Then we need to understand if people are complaining about procedural issues that have stopped *them* getting a ticket and thus they believe it unfair, or whether they are genuinely unfair.

I’m firmly in the camp that away tickets need to be better spread among fans, others seem to think it would be better if 90% of the 3,000 each game are the same people.


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forestzoe

Jack Burkitt
Zoe - I have praised you openly in this Forum, especially over the Billy Sharp issue. This comment disappoints me - the post was made at 12.20am in response to my post at 11.12pm. You will know that I’m no spring chicken with serious underlying health issues so I do have other priorities this morning.
You will see that the question has now been answered.
I'll be honest no I didn't notice the times, just that there had been several replies since, with no answer, nothing more sinister than that. Disappointed you've seemingly read more into it tbh. And no, I know nowt of your health/personal circumstances.

I remember how arsey the Trust were when they came in here initially and that sort of stuff sticks in minds. It was arrogance from them.

800 members. Out of a conservative estimate of let's say 50k fans. That's 0.01%. Representing the fans?

As to your claim they engage on social media. I'm all over fb as an admin of a large and very busy Forest group. Consequently I'm all over SM sourcing info, articles etc on a daily basis. And I mean all over, it's a lively group and we pull info from allsorts if sources, from fb to twitter to blogs to papers. There's been almost sweet FA off the Trust, and certainly nothing meaningful.

FB. 9th June. A post about being in PL finally

17th June A post asking about feedback on the LB move (this was AFTER it had all kicked off big style on SM, and there was nothing about prior consultation inviting opinions, merely a reaction after the fact.

They had been been busy tweeting wishing Derby well in their survival bid earlier in the day iirc, and faced a backlash from fans for not even mentioning the LB issue. I actually lost the last vestiges of any respect for them over this. As did many others. They became a laughing stock. )

I had actually been speaking to Bexon, off my own back, many weeks prior and had warned the group members that this was going.to be happening. What had the Trust done? The silence was deafening. This is certainly an issue they should've been involved with and actively engaging with fans over, and at least pre warning them. They simply didn't do jack until after the fact.

20th July Announced the planning decision

And that's its until the QnA. Where's the engagement over memberships both home and away? Invitation to consult or suggest ideas? Nothing. Where's the posts inviting people to join the Trust? Nothing bar 1 on 19th June on twitter. The close season has seen a huge swell of numbers across SM groups of fans joining, engaging and being active. They've missed the boat.

Twitter is similar. Nothing inviting engagement. Info on AGM, few bits about players, retweets of charity stuff. But nothing about two major issues affecting fans, the LB and memberships, until after the fact.


The Trust is not fit for purpose. Its nothing more than a club mouthpiece, and no matter how well you write about it, and there's no doubt you're erudite and passionate, it's simply not serving a decent purpose for the fans. It's not engaging on important issues, and it's not representing fans in any useful form.


Edit: I'll add that you have a large section of fans here, alot saying broadly similar things. A perfect opportunity for feedback to the Trust and how badly they're perceived and WHY. Instead if trying to convert on here, maybe actually feedback to the Trust?





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Barry

Where's me hammer?
I'll be honest no I didn't notice the times, just that there had been several replies since, with no answer, nothing more sinister than that. Disappointed you've seemingly read more into it tbh. And no, I know nowt of your health/personal circumstances.

I remember how arsey the Trust were when they came in here initially and that sort of stuff sticks in minds. It was arrogance from them.

800 members. Out of a conservative estimate of let's say 50k fans. That's 0.01%. Representing the fans?

As to your claim they engage on social media. I'm all over fb as an admin of a large and very busy Forest group. Consequently I'm all over SM sourcing info, articles etc on a daily basis. And I mean all over, it's a lively group and we pull info from allsorts if sources, from fb to twitter to blogs to papers. There's been almost sweet FA off the Trust, and certainly nothing meaningful.

FB. 9th June. A post about being in PL finally

17th June A post asking about feedback on the LB move (this was AFTER it had all kicked off big style on SM, and there was nothing about prior consultation inviting opinions, merely a reaction after the fact.

They had been been busy tweeting wishing Derby well in their survival bid earlier in the day iirc, and faced a backlash from fans for not even mentioning the LB issue. I actually lost the last vestiges of any respect for them over this. As did many others. They became a laughing stock. )

I had actually been speaking to Bexon, off my own back, many weeks prior and had warned the group members that this was going.to be happening. What had the Trust done? The silence was deafening. This is certainly an issue they should've been involved with and actively engaging with fans over, and at least pre warning them. They simply didn't do jack until after the fact.

20th July Announced the planning decision

And that's its until the QnA. Where's the engagement over memberships both home and away? Invitation to consult or suggest ideas? Nothing. Where's the posts inviting people to join the Trust? Nothing bar 1 on 19th June on twitter. The close season has seen a huge swell of numbers across SM groups of fans joining, engaging and being active. They've missed the boat.

Twitter is similar. Nothing inviting engagement. Info on AGM, few bits about players, retweets of charity stuff. But nothing about two major issues affecting fans, the LB and memberships, until after the fact.


The Trust is not fit for purpose. Its nothing more than a club mouthpiece, and no matter how well you write about it, and there's no doubt you're erudite and passionate, it's simply not serving a decent purpose for the fans. It's not engaging on important issues, and it's not representing fans in any useful form.


Edit: I'll add that you have a large section of fans here, alot saying broadly similar things. A perfect opportunity for feedback to the Trust and how badly they're perceived and WHY. Instead if trying to convert on here, maybe actually feedback to the Trust?





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Stan > the supporters trust

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gamble

Stuart Pearce
I'll be honest no I didn't notice the times, just that there had been several replies since, with no answer, nothing more sinister than that. Disappointed you've seemingly read more into it tbh. And no, I know nowt of your health/personal circumstances.

I remember how arsey the Trust were when they came in here initially and that sort of stuff sticks in minds. It was arrogance from them.

800 members. Out of a conservative estimate of let's say 50k fans. That's 0.01%. Representing the fans?

As to your claim they engage on social media. I'm all over fb as an admin of a large and very busy Forest group. Consequently I'm all over SM sourcing info, articles etc on a daily basis. And I mean all over, it's a lively group and we pull info from allsorts if sources, from fb to twitter to blogs to papers. There's been almost sweet FA off the Trust, and certainly nothing meaningful.

FB. 9th June. A post about being in PL finally

17th June A post asking about feedback on the LB move (this was AFTER it had all kicked off big style on SM, and there was nothing about prior consultation inviting opinions, merely a reaction after the fact.

They had been been busy tweeting wishing Derby well in their survival bid earlier in the day iirc, and faced a backlash from fans for not even mentioning the LB issue. I actually lost the last vestiges of any respect for them over this. As did many others. They became a laughing stock. )

I had actually been speaking to Bexon, off my own back, many weeks prior and had warned the group members that this was going.to be happening. What had the Trust done? The silence was deafening. This is certainly an issue they should've been involved with and actively engaging with fans over, and at least pre warning them. They simply didn't do jack until after the fact.

20th July Announced the planning decision

And that's its until the QnA. Where's the engagement over memberships both home and away? Invitation to consult or suggest ideas? Nothing. Where's the posts inviting people to join the Trust? Nothing bar 1 on 19th June on twitter. The close season has seen a huge swell of numbers across SM groups of fans joining, engaging and being active. They've missed the boat.

Twitter is similar. Nothing inviting engagement. Info on AGM, few bits about players, retweets of charity stuff. But nothing about two major issues affecting fans, the LB and memberships, until after the fact.


The Trust is not fit for purpose. Its nothing more than a club mouthpiece, and no matter how well you write about it, and there's no doubt you're erudite and passionate, it's simply not serving a decent purpose for the fans. It's not engaging on important issues, and it's not representing fans in any useful form.


Edit: I'll add that you have a large section of fans here, alot saying broadly similar things. A perfect opportunity for feedback to the Trust and how badly they're perceived and WHY. Instead if trying to convert on here, maybe actually feedback to the Trust?





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That last bit is key, every time it's the NFST is criticised they go l defensive rather than listen to what people think. The Q&A last year showed me they were nothing more than a mouth piece for the club, as we had plenty of issues that needed discussion but instead we got waffle and nothing.
 

Louth Red

Youth Team
I'll be honest no I didn't notice the times, just that there had been several replies since, with no answer, nothing more sinister than that. Disappointed you've seemingly read more into it tbh. And no, I know nowt of your health/personal circumstances.

I remember how arsey the Trust were when they came in here initially and that sort of stuff sticks in minds. It was arrogance from them.

800 members. Out of a conservative estimate of let's say 50k fans. That's 0.01%. Representing the fans?

As to your claim they engage on social media. I'm all over fb as an admin of a large and very busy Forest group. Consequently I'm all over SM sourcing info, articles etc on a daily basis. And I mean all over, it's a lively group and we pull info from allsorts if sources, from fb to twitter to blogs to papers. There's been almost sweet FA off the Trust, and certainly nothing meaningful.

FB. 9th June. A post about being in PL finally

17th June A post asking about feedback on the LB move (this was AFTER it had all kicked off big style on SM, and there was nothing about prior consultation inviting opinions, merely a reaction after the fact.

They had been been busy tweeting wishing Derby well in their survival bid earlier in the day iirc, and faced a backlash from fans for not even mentioning the LB issue. I actually lost the last vestiges of any respect for them over this. As did many others. They became a laughing stock. )

I had actually been speaking to Bexon, off my own back, many weeks prior and had warned the group members that this was going.to be happening. What had the Trust done? The silence was deafening. This is certainly an issue they should've been involved with and actively engaging with fans over, and at least pre warning them. They simply didn't do jack until after the fact.

20th July Announced the planning decision

And that's its until the QnA. Where's the engagement over memberships both home and away? Invitation to consult or suggest ideas? Nothing. Where's the posts inviting people to join the Trust? Nothing bar 1 on 19th June on twitter. The close season has seen a huge swell of numbers across SM groups of fans joining, engaging and being active. They've missed the boat.

Twitter is similar. Nothing inviting engagement. Info on AGM, few bits about players, retweets of charity stuff. But nothing about two major issues affecting fans, the LB and memberships, until after the fact.


The Trust is not fit for purpose. Its nothing more than a club mouthpiece, and no matter how well you write about it, and there's no doubt you're erudite and passionate, it's simply not serving a decent purpose for the fans. It's not engaging on important issues, and it's not representing fans in any useful form.


Edit: I'll add that you have a large section of fans here, alot saying broadly similar things. A perfect opportunity for feedback to the Trust and how badly they're perceived and WHY. Instead if trying to convert on here, maybe actually feedback to the Trust?





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Thank you for this interesting response which I have reflected on before responding. Most issues have already been dealt with but a few comments:
1. Thank you for your compliment in your penultimate paragraph - for a lad from a working class, council house background in Sutton I‘ve never been given such an accolade.
2. Like many others, you refer to relations with the forum in 2017/18 - please read post 777 - Strummer - for a more up to date position.
3. I understand your point about representation, but of supporters groups how many current members does each group have. The Supporters Club probably have the most, Forest Punjabi 200?, DSA <100, Forza ? - are we saying that only the Supporters Club has a representative voice because of the numbers. Your arithmetic on the Trust is also flawed.
4. You ask why I’m trying to convert people on this forum - I’m not as my approach is to simply to correct misinformation from people who put out views which have no evidence. I want people to make up their own minds based on fact not flawed information.
5. I can assure that I have no time for the team down the A52, I have posted on the forum that Club should face the full and serious consequences of owner mismanagement and rule breaking. However, I believe in the real spirit of Association Football where communities don’t lose their club - and I want the opportunity to beat them in the future. Too many clubs have suffered from bad ownership but history shows that football comes together to ensure clubs can survive albeit suffering from the legacy of previous owners.
6. Your view of lack of action from the Trust on the two key issues of Lower Bridgford and Ticketing is misplaced. The Trust worked actively on both issues, and operated with the same tight timeframe as Forza. The Trust secured a face to face meeting with the Chairman at short to deal with tough questions from the membership. A transcript of the Club response was issued within seven days.
7. The Trust has been very active within the FSA raising a wide range of important issues, participating actively on FLR, fixture scheduling, and stewarding/fan behaviour. This has had positive outcomes.

Sadly, too many minds are closed on the Trust mainly because of dated perceptions, and independent evidence to the contrary.

Supporters come from a wide diversity of backgrounds. Each Forest Supporter Group has its own distinct role but collectively they are a force for good. At games they come together as a force - why can’t we do this away from games?

I‘m looking forward to focussing on the football tomorrow rather than debating supporter groups. Like the other 3,000 away supporters my focus will be on backing my team fully. Hopefully celebrating as one with fans irrespective of which group they belong to.

Whatever the outcome I will take a short break from the Forum.

COYR
 
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