Elliot Junior Anderson OF ENGLAND!

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LTLF Minion
Noticed in the live transfer centre on the sky website they posted Anderson best PL Moments for Forest. Not once but twice in the space of two hours. Also an article talking about 79 players that may move on in the Summer, Anderson was the first to be named. Obviously Sky want him at a Big 6 club.
Obviously, Sky can f*** off.
 

YouReds43

Grenville Morris
This was a snippet from The Athletic article this morning. Possible sale before WC. But the last bit concerns me if we don't sell him does that mean we have to sell other prized assets?

"They are not actively looking to sell Elliot Anderson, but there is a reluctant acceptance that he is likely to depart in the coming weeks, possibly even before the World Cup. But if they do accept an offer for the midfielder — who Marinakis believes is worth upwards of £110million — it would mean the club would not need to sell their other prize assets."
 

Shearstone

Derby delenda est
This was a snippet from The Athletic article this morning. Possible sale before WC. But the last bit concerns me if we don't sell him does that mean we have to sell other prized assets?

"They are not actively looking to sell Elliot Anderson, but there is a reluctant acceptance that he is likely to depart in the coming weeks, possibly even before the World Cup. But if they do accept an offer for the midfielder — who Marinakis believes is worth upwards of £110million — it would mean the club would not need to sell their other prize assets."
Since coming up we've basically operated on a sell one big player per season to fund psr and recruitment for the next season, so yeah if Anderson doesn't go we'll have to sell someone or spend less. That said if Anderson doesn't go I could see us finding takers for some of our fringe players to give us enough cash for a couple of new additions.
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
I'm fairly certain (90%+) that we're right on the nose with FFP this season, which is why our January business was limited to a Lucca loan really.

Next season we then carry over the operating loss, don't have the Elanga sale money to offset from it, and have an additional £50m+ on the operating loss from the transfer activity 12 months ago. On that basis I don't think there's any chance we meet SCR by selling a couple of fringe players, let alone using money from the fringe players as a means to buy new ones in. We'll need a big sale plus fringe sales in order to jig the squad around fairly substantially. If we just do the Anderson sale and not much else then you can probably just assume we do a like-for-like replacement at £30m odd, bank the rest and make do with the squad.
 

YouReds43

Grenville Morris
I'm fairly certain (90%+) that we're right on the nose with FFP this season, which is why our January business was limited to a Lucca loan really.

Next season we then carry over the operating loss, don't have the Elanga sale money to offset from it, and have an additional £50m+ on the operating loss from the transfer activity 12 months ago. On that basis I don't think there's any chance we meet SCR by selling a couple of fringe players, let alone using money from the fringe players as a means to buy new ones in. We'll need a big sale plus fringe sales in order to jig the squad around fairly substantially. If we just do the Anderson sale and not much else then you can probably just assume we do a like-for-like replacement at £30m odd, bank the rest and make do with the squad.
I understand that a 1/3 of Elanga's deal goes into the SCR accounts as it is transfer profits over the last 3 years.
£13m should go into next years SCR. 3m profit of Danilo's sale should go into it too. Other smaller sales too.
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
I understand that a 1/3 of Elanga's deal goes into the SCR accounts as it is transfer profits over the last 3 years.
£13m should go into next years SCR. 3m profit of Danilo's sale should go into it too. Other smaller sales too.

If that is the case that transfer profits are split across years then that is bad news for us next season as I was assuming in my previous post we would book £80m+ of Anderson profit in one go.
 

YouReds43

Grenville Morris
If that is the case that transfer profits are split across years then that is bad news for us next season as I was assuming in my previous post we would book £80m+ of Anderson profit in one go.
On the other hand, Only Players and Head Coach's wages go into the SCR model. No other staff wages are included.
 

Bob Fossil

Nottingham's dirty secret
I understand that a 1/3 of Elanga's deal goes into the SCR accounts as it is transfer profits over the last 3 years.
£13m should go into next years SCR. 3m profit of Danilo's sale should go into it too. Other smaller sales too.
When a club sells a player, the entire profit (the transfer fee received minus the player's remaining "book value") is booked immediately on the profit and loss statement.
 

Trents

Stuart Pearce
Can see EM holding out until post World Cup to get him as much in a shop window as possible. Can't see any non English side paying what we'd want though.
 

Bob Fossil

Nottingham's dirty secret
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Bing Crosby's Head

Geoff Thomas
When a club sells a player, the entire profit (the transfer fee received minus the player's remaining "book value") is booked immediately on the profit and loss statement.
Don't confuse profit and loss with SCR though. @YouReds43 is correct that one third of the profit (or loss) of any transfer goes into SCR income for three seasons after the sale. It's one of the reasons that clubs like ourselves did so much transfer activity last summer as you got to use the full income for the last season of PSR and then a third of it for the first two seasons of SCR.
 

Bob Fossil

Nottingham's dirty secret
Don't confuse profit and loss with SCR though. @YouReds43 is correct that one third of the profit (or loss) of any transfer goes into SCR income for three seasons after the sale. It's one of the reasons that clubs like ourselves did so much transfer activity last summer as you got to use the full income for the last season of PSR and then a third of it for the first two seasons of SCR.
FFS. You & YouReds are bang on.

Just as I was getting used to PSR.

Warra bag o bollocks.
 

Lord Wazzock

First Team Squad
The latest Forest Focus is Matt speaking to a Manchester Evening News journo. He said that City have put lots of work into signing Anderson so expects it to happen. He also thinks that City may offer cash plus a player.
 

oobidoobi

Viv Anderson
The latest Forest Focus is Matt speaking to a Manchester Evening News journo. He said that City have put lots of work into signing Anderson so expects it to happen. He also thinks that City may offer cash plus a player.
Im fairly sure thats exactly what theyll do but unless its a player we want and a cash figure we are happy with, it still wont matter.
 

GregorRobertson

Jack Burkitt
People are always suggesting these swap / part - exchange type deals but they very rarely happen. Or if they do it’s to inflate the price of both players. (E.g. Anderson / Vlach)
 

robboisagenius

Youth Team
Why would we accept a swap deal? Our incoming transfers are amortised over the length of the contract, whereas outgoings are accounted for in their entirety in the same financial year.

A swap deal is against our financial interests. We'd be better off paying £40m and receving £120m.
They account for them separately so it makes no difference. In fact it probably gives far more wriggle room like the Anderson Vlachodomas deal
 
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