Dilane Bakwa

[Locadoodledoo]

Lads dropped off a cliff bigger than that rockface behind the goal. I watched him play a few times in the French league and he was unplayable at times.

Something has gone badly wrong very quickly.

Had his talent coached out of him in a matter of months by Ange and now Dyche.

 

[Locadoodledoo]

Really don’t understand why our wingers don’t attack the full backs, they just pass it inside mostly in the opposite direction.
Get moving and have a go at getting past them, if it doesn’t work we may get a throw in or corner, but let them know you are going to give them a hard time.
Can’t think of any other reason than they are instructed to do this.

last sentence is the nail on the head moment

 

[Monkman]

I disagree on the above, we've seen Hutchinson and CHO take their full backs on quite a bit under Dyche. Can't imagine he'd be giving Bakwa different instructions.

 

[TrentEnder1865]

you’d like to think someone with dyche’s personality would have his arm round him and get his confidence up and have him running at fullbacks but obviously not. It has to be tactical all the clips we’ve seen of bakwa was him being direct and driving people backwards yet he looks petrified to do it at the moment.

 

[GregorRobertson]

I disagree on the above, we've seen Hutchinson and CHO take their full backs on quite a bit under Dyche. Can't imagine he'd be giving Bakwa different instructions.

“And make sure if you do get a cross in, it doesn’t clear the first man”

Seems doubtful.

 

[GaryCrosbysStepOver]

To be fair to the wingers, a big problem is when they do break, there’s nobody in the box, so they have to stop and wait, and the moment goes

 

[Green Jumper]

Wingers need to go at the full-back the majority of the time in my view. I'll not criticise them for losing the ball of they try and fail as long as it's their best effort.

I'd rather see them beating their man and hitting crosses to an empty box, so at least it's crystal clear where the fault then lies. Recycling the ball then hanging-up or scuffing crosses isn't getting the job done at present.

 

[Hawkeye1947]

I remember both Woan and Stone playing and with those two it was FORWARD not sideways and back. I can’t believe that those two are instructing them to do that. I saw Bakwa in the French league and I think we signed his brother

 

[Ryan’s Johnson]

Reminds me of the signings we used to make in the Championship (remember Ryan Mendes?) that would come in, be poor, shipped out the season after in a constant churn of mediocrity, except this guy is actually our third most expensive signing. tbf, the top two (Ndoye and Hutchinson) aren't much better.

However.... looking through last years signings, barely any new signing winger has done anything. Adli at B'moth - £25m, has 1 goal in 25 games. Guessand at Villa, £23m, 0 goals, 13 games. Elanga is the obvious one too, 0 goals, 18 games. Gittens & Garnacho at Chelsea, combined 28 games, combined 1 goal. This league is the most defensive it's ever been, the least goals since 2004, the least long shots (if you remove Rogers) of all time, the most crosses, the most set piece goals. It's hard to make an impact, but you can't excuse the lack of effort and bizzare choices this guy makes.

That’s actually a very good point. Makes me feel a little better in regard to Bakwa. Nonetheless I still feel it was one of the worse performances I’ve ever seen from a Forest player. Hudson Odoi came on and at least had a go.

 

[andyd]

I've mentioned before that my line of work is partly based in cultural training and cross cultural support. Gareth Bale is one of my prime examples in presentations of how to let culture issues destroy your career even as a world class player. I genuinely thought about applying for the role at Forest last year that encompassed this (but the pay was abysmal and the role description was far too focussed on operational tasks for people and not coming alongside people as they adjust). Bakwa strikes me as someone who is having massive issues in his cultural adjustment as well as his adaptation to the Premier League and doesn't have the support he needs. We've all seen the videos, this lad can play, but there are other issues at play along with his confidence the are preventing him performing. I've been involved in some discussion about offering this kind of thing to football clubs externally, but there is a notable like of value given to it and no interest in paying for it. Which is weird as the issues are clear part of neutering all sorts of multi million pound assets.

 

[Listen 'ere young man]

You've got to hold and pass back, but do it all the time. You can be slow or fast, but you must not break the lines...

The Dyche rap.

 

[Browser79]

I've mentioned before that my line of work is partly based in cultural training and cross cultural support. Gareth Bale is one of my prime examples in presentations of how to let culture issues destroy your career even as a world class player. I genuinely thought about applying for the role at Forest last year that encompassed this (but the pay was abysmal and the role description was far too focussed on operational tasks for people and not coming alongside people as they adjust). Bakwa strikes me as someone who is having massive issues in his cultural adjustment as well as his adaptation to the Premier League and doesn't have the support he needs. We've all seen the videos, this lad can play, but there are other issues at play along with his confidence the are preventing him performing. I've been involved in some discussion about offering this kind of thing to football clubs externally, but there is a notable like of value given to it and no interest in paying for it. Which is weird as the issues are clear part of neutering all sorts of multi million pound assets.

Totally on board with all of this. Dyche positioned himself as something of a new age thinker when he turned up, but that could have been more on the side of physical data, rather than psychological observation. Although he’s probably working with whatever support the club have on payroll, and then to your point it’s no wonder some of these folks do an average job when the pay is so average. A little like politics.

The squad reeks of mental and emotional issues. For whatever faults he had, Nuno seemed to manage them very well, and both Ange and Dyche seem not to.

 

[Rzar]

Please please do not give up on these players, they have had the confidence completely coached out of them. The environment the players are current playing in is absolutely terrible - they are set up to fail. Watch Bakwa's first few appearances in a Forest shirt, his confidence has been drained & not the only one.

The ball goes slowly from the centre backs, to full backs, to wingers - then they have 3 players infront of them, nobody inside to pass too and are expected to create - or under Dyche's MO just lump the ball into the box. He is put into a position where he loses the ball a few times taking risks he has to take & over a match that develops into a player trying to not keep losing the ball so he doesn't ends up not taking risks.

To get the best out of wingers, something we have done so so well in our PL era, we have always zipped the ball to MGW QUICKLY & he will get it equally quickly to wide areas to start a counter attack so wingers can run at players with speed. But we don't do that. We never use the quick ball into MGW, we dordle with it at the back and because there is never anybody to pass too, they are forced to boot it long. There is so much wrong with the way we are setup that I cannot bring myself to criticizing players that are so drained of confidence in a system which is not going to get close to the best out of them.

Every player looks so frustrated, even our best ones who we know are brilliant mainly because the way we are setup is setting them up to fail.

 

[BakwaTheNet]

Maybe our players just do what they do at Real Madrid and ignore the coach. We’ll be in the champions league places in no time

But seriously, I do believe Dyche isn’t right for this set of players, but he and they is what we have and probably isn’t going to change dramatically until the close season baring a real catastrophe.
The thinking from the top all seems a bit muddled. I hope whatever the long term plan is, it’s put in place asap and can hit the ground running from the end of this season.

 

[andover red]

When all players are underperformed and low on confidence it's not a player problem. The job of the managers and coaches is to get the best out of the players and that is definitely not happening

 

[Berkshire Red]

When all players are underperformed and low on confidence it's not a player problem. The job of the managers and coaches is to get the best out of the players and that is definitely not happening

Bringing in Sean Dyche to work with so many newbies from overseas was a colossal f*** up. I'd suggest he's about as good at managing young newcomers to our shores as Mr Gilbert was at the Pastoral care in the Inbetweeners.

 

[coops89]

Bringing in Sean Dyche to work with so many newbies from overseas was a colossal f*** up. I'd suggest he's about as good at managing young newcomers to our shores as Mr Gilbert was at the Pastoral care in the Inbetweeners.

I like to think Sean Dyche’s interview was like Jay Cartwright. ‘Managed in the Premier League before?’ ‘Completed it mate’.

 

[Locadoodledoo]

Maybe our players just do what they do at Real Madrid and ignore the coach. We’ll be in the champions league places in no time

But seriously, I do believe Dyche isn’t right for this set of players, but he and they is what we have and probably isn’t going to change dramatically until the close season baring a real catastrophe.
The thinking from the top all seems a bit muddled. I hope whatever the long term plan is, it’s put in place asap and can hit the ground running from the end of this season.

I think that "muddled" is being generous to those in the positions of power. Fekin clueless sums it up perfectly. Mr M wanted to run before he could walk and now he's tripped over. Needs to steady the ship next season if we stay up, temper his expectations and have a season of consolidation. Then, look for European domination

 

[B35]

Is he injured?

 

[Ripple]

Hamstring recovery?

I'm hoping there's a rich vein somewhere in this lad, and I'm hoping the next manager can extract it!

 

[Trents]

It's like Alex Mighten has sneaked back in with a new name and dodgy haircut.

 

[Est.1865]

Shouldn’t be anywhere near a PL game at the minute.

 

[Haych]

I’m not convinced he’s a professional footballer.

 

[Abdooonk]

But, look at Sangare. Bakwa’s going to be great when he’s settled in.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

Bakwank.