Dan Assane Ndoye

[Berkshire Red]

Play him on the left instead.

 

[Deleted User 36187]

He’s inconsistent but so was Elanga. Highs aren’t as high as Elanga though, well not yet

There’s a player there. Think would benefit from having a true player on the other side too.

 

[Masuka]

Think he’ll be better playing in front of Aina than Savona

 

[Bob Fossil]

He was poor today.

But he's had better games and overall he's been ok.

Expected a bit more but I think Elanga and CHO spoiled us last season as they were exceptional.

 

[Red Ray's Redlist]

He was really poor today. Never seemed to take the right option, was weak in the tackle, and just didn't seem up for the fight.

He's had good games this just wasn't one of them. But he needs to earn his place and I think he's opened the door for Hutchinson.

 

[mysteryduck]

You don't often see a 0/10 performance but this guy tonight...

CHO back in at Everton you'd hope.

 

[Monkman]

Poor tonight without doubt. Not giving up on him yet though, he's had good games too.

 

[tomw94]

Running out of patience with this guy

 

[Notcher]

Unfortunately he's playing his way out of the team at the moment. Thankfully others are playing themselves in. There's some quality there but he needs a lot of work

 

[Bohinens_chip]

He was really poor today. Never seemed to take the right option, was weak in the tackle, and just didn't seem up for the fight.

He's had good games this just wasn't one of them. But he needs to earn his place and I think he's opened the door for Hutchinson.

Just liked this post but realised it was from Sunday. Tells its own story

He needs some time on the bench and focus on being effective for 30 mins.

 

[Any Time Now]

Not convinced the PL is the right division for him

 

[Yoghurt Slice]

There's a player in there. Sometimes he just seems a step or two behind, like he didn't anticipate the play at all and could have been a few yards closer to where the ball ends up. He needs to improve and I'm sure he will. But for now CHO and Omari are clear 1st choice wingers.

 

[Notcher]

Just posted this in the match thread.

Mark on Forest Focus just gave these stats

Hutchinson 298 mins
Ndoye 953 mins

Hutch 1 start
Ndoye 13

Hutch 36 crosses
Ndoye 32

Hutchinson 11 shots
Ndoye 8

Hutch 10 successful crosses
Ndoye 7

Hutch 13 chances created
Ndoye 9

Third of the time on the pitch and 12 less starts and look at the difference. Those stats tell you everything

 

[The Frog]

Runs incredibly hot and cold. Maybe Luke warm and stone cold.

The positive for me is when he does run a man he can glide past them (then hoof the ball out of play), but feels like confidence is completely gone, and trying too hard. Point being I’d rather see that than nothing. There is a player in there somewhere.

Just hope he doesn’t become the Sangare of ‘25 and everyone destroys him.

The broader context is he has come to a new league and had 3 different managers. If CHO was flying then he would be given the grace of being eased in like Hutch.

 

[Caveman Ninja]

Just posted this in the match thread.

Mark on Forest Focus just gave these stats

Hutchinson 298 mins
Ndoye 953 mins

Hutch 1 start
Ndoye 13

Hutch 36 crosses
Ndoye 32

Hutchinson 11 shots
Ndoye 8

Hutch 10 successful crosses
Ndoye 7

Hutch 13 chances created
Ndoye 9

Third of the time on the pitch and 12 less starts and look at the difference. Those stats tell you everything

That's pretty wild actually. Not sure if it says more about Ndoye or Hutch

 

[Osiris]

He's on a bad run of form definitely but then Elanga was exactly the same, he'd go through barren runs then purple patches

I'm not going to write him off just yet

 

[Bob Fossil]

Runs incredibly hot and cold. Maybe Luke warm and stone cold.

The positive for me is when he does run a man he can glide past them (then hoof the ball out of play), but feels like confidence is completely gone, and trying too hard. Point being I’d rather see that than nothing. There is a player in there somewhere.

Just hope he doesn’t become the Sangare of ‘25 and everyone destroys him.

The broader context is he has come to a new league and had 3 different managers. If CHO was flying then he would be given the grace of being eased in like Hutch.

How many times have you seen him 'glide' past a man?

Had a good start, was average after that but has been poor in the last 2 games.

Put's a shift in but he appears (at this stage) to be an average player in all aspects. Probably returning to the norm after one break out season in Italy.

 

[garibaldi]

We were spoilt with Elanga who had a goal or assist nearly every other game. Chronically underappriciated by some of the fanbase. Even fan favourite CHO is nowhere near his numbers.

However, even when Elanga would shy from beating his man 1 v 1 to get to the byline, you could tell he had other attributes and if all else failed he had physicality and energy.

I'm not sure what Ndoye does.

An awful situation to adapt to however thanks to Nuno and then further compounded by Marinakis' Angegate.

 

[Red Echo]

I'm still trying to work out what his 'thing' is

Brennan could be anonymous for 99% of the game and then bang, he scores
Elanga was rapid
Hudson-Odoi is very direct
Hutchinson can cross

In the early part of the season I thought it was smarts, but he's been drifting at sea lately

Maybe it will take him the year to adapt to the pace of English football

 

[DizzyBala]

I think as it stands, I think we're actually being a little bit harsh on Dan, if I'm honest. He's still delivering to a high level for the Swiss. He's had two and a bit managers already, he's just come to the league for the first time in August, he's acclimatising to the city and the squad and he's in great form for the Swiss.

When it comes to Elanga, in the first few months of last season Elanga was actually honking. Elanga has two assists and no goals for Newcastle since joining in the summer and he's cost almost twice what we paid for N'Doye. However, Elanga had the kind of speed that afforded him time and opportunities to deliver what he delivered. He also had one of these best focal points in Chris Wood last season to aim for. Elanga was here for a full season before last season. In fact, Elanga didn't hit form until December last year.

When it comes to Hudson-Odoi, Callum has one goal contribution in 18 games this season and he hasn't scored since the second game of the season. Granted he has played 200 minutes less but N'Doye has three goal contributions in that same amount of time. Callum hasn't created a goal for another Forest player since the 6th of January 2025. While part of that may be on the finishing, that's a woeful stat. Additionally, Callum was here for a full season before last season too and he's into his third season at Forest.

As for Brennan, it's been a while now but Brennan was essentially the focal point/main outlet of the team during 2022-2023. Like Elanga, he had get out of trouble speed that allowed him a lot more.

The only outlier there is Hutchinson, because Hutch already has five assists to his name in 10 appearances and around 380 minutes of football. But, then pre-Leeds, the narrative around Hutch was that maybe he might be an expensive flop.

Point being, there is a good player in N'Doye somewhere. He was admittedly quite shite tonight but I have more faith in him to be a big player for us this season. I'd really like to see what he does when Woody comes back.

 

[Cureboy]

Sell him. Try and get close to £30 million and put it towards bringing Brennan home.

 

[Rzar]

It’s Ndoye’s turn to be sold now then

A few weeks ago Hutchinson was the sack of shit that was a complete waste of money, now he’s our best player

Wingers blow hot & cold, especially new ones to the league. He has been on an upwards trajectory since joining, he’s gone back down in the past 2 games. CHO probably gets the nod against Everton now based on that - who has arguably had a slower season than Ndoye so far but we know he is class.

 

[Monkman]

Runs incredibly hot and cold. Maybe Luke warm and stone cold.

The positive for me is when he does run a man he can glide past them (then hoof the ball out of play), but feels like confidence is completely gone, and trying too hard. Point being I’d rather see that than nothing. There is a player in there somewhere.

Just hope he doesn’t become the Sangare of ‘25 and everyone destroys him.

The broader context is he has come to a new league and had 3 different managers. If CHO was flying then he would be given the grace of being eased in like Hutch.

His stats don't match up well against Hutchinson's, but that says more about Omari's bright start than Ndoye being awful imo. Compare Ndoye to CHO and I'm sure it's much more similar - and I think most of us are very happy with CHO overall, if perhaps a little disappointed with his returns this season.

 

[greatbowden_garibaldi]

It’s Ndoye’s turn to be sold now then

A few weeks ago Hutchinson was the sack of shit that was a complete waste of money, now he’s our best player

Wingers blow hot & cold, especially new ones to the league. He has been on an upwards trajectory since joining, he’s gone back down in the past 2 games. CHO probably gets the nod against Everton now based on that - who has arguably had a slower season than Ndoye so far but we know he is class.

People also forget his excellent form for his country and the amount of minutes has has played.

He will come good I'm sure of it.

 

[Monkman]

I think as it stands, I think we're actually being a little bit harsh on Dan, if I'm honest. He's still delivering to a high level for the Swiss. He's had two and a bit managers already, he's just come to the league for the first time in August, he's acclimatising to the city and the squad and he's in great form for the Swiss.

When it comes to Elanga, in the first few months of last season Elanga was actually honking. Elanga has two assists and no goals for Newcastle since joining in the summer and he's cost almost twice what we paid for N'Doye. However, Elanga had the kind of speed that afforded him time and opportunities to deliver what he delivered. He also had one of these best focal points in Chris Wood last season to aim for. Elanga was here for a full season before last season. In fact, Elanga didn't hit form until December last year.

When it comes to Hudson-Odoi, Callum has one goal contribution in 18 games this season and he hasn't scored since the second game of the season. Granted he has played 200 minutes less but N'Doye has three goal contributions in that same amount of time. Callum hasn't created a goal for another Forest player since the 6th of January 2025. While part of that may be on the finishing, that's a woeful stat. Additionally, Callum was here for a full season before last season too and he's into his third season at Forest.

As for Brennan, it's been a while now but Brennan was essentially the focal point/main outlet of the team during 2022-2023. Like Elanga, he had get out of trouble speed that allowed him a lot more.

The only outlier there is Hutchinson, because Hutch already has five assists to his name in 10 appearances and around 380 minutes of football. But, then pre-Leeds, the narrative around Hutch was that maybe he might be an expensive flop.

Point being, there is a good player in N'Doye somewhere. He was admittedly quite shite tonight but I have more faith in him to be a big player for us this season. I'd really like to see what he does when Woody comes back.

Good post, and the bolded part is pretty shocking tbf.