Arnaud Kalimuendo-Muinga

Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "w**ksy"
I think the fact that Dyche was clearly on thin ice in January I doubt his leaving was 100% down to him. He might have agreed with it but if they thought a new manager was coming in then why wouldnt they just keep him around just in case. Unless there was an underlying problem and they wanted him out the club at the earliest opportunity.

Do you really think Dyche suggested he leave before a replacement came in?
Yes, Dyche definitely said, "I want less players and less strikers because I'm in two competitions where I need as many bodies as possible, and having less options would benefit me." 😆

Sometimes I have to pinch myself what I read on here, mate. Anyone thinking Dyche wanted any players out in the situation we were in is drunk. He doesn't pay the wages.

I also love how people are putting this all down to Dyche when it's been blatantly clear that Edu has been responsible for recruitment all season, to the point where his January dealing has got him the sack.
 

McKenzie

Geoff Thomas
Yes, Dyche definitely said, "I want less players and less strikers because I'm in two competitions where I need as many bodies as possible, and having less options would benefit me." 😆

Sometimes I have to pinch myself what I read on here, mate. Anyone thinking Dyche wanted any players out in the situation we were in is drunk. He doesn't pay the wages.

I also love how people are putting this all down to Dyche when it's been blatantly clear that Edu has been responsible for recruitment all season, to the point where his January dealing has got him the sack.
Colback even says on that latest podcast that it was rarely the manager having input into transfers. And that was Cooper who had some money in the bank rather than someone who has been here a few months.
 

Berkshire Red

John Robertson
Yes, Dyche definitely said, "I want less players and less strikers because I'm in two competitions where I need as many bodies as possible, and having less options would benefit me." 😆

Sometimes I have to pinch myself what I read on here, mate. Anyone thinking Dyche wanted any players out in the situation we were in is drunk. He doesn't pay the wages.

I also love how people are putting this all down to Dyche when it's been blatantly clear that Edu has been responsible for recruitment all season, to the point where his January dealing has got him the sack.
The **** didn't use the players at his disposal.

Do you think Edu told him not to play McAtee again after his best performance against Ferencvaros? And how about his treatment of Taiwo after his Brentford goal? Zero minutes.

The guy is a prime dickhead with no man management ability.

Those of you defending him seem to live in a different era.
 

McKenzie

Geoff Thomas
The **** didn't use the players at his disposal.

Do you think Edu told him not to play McAtee again after his best performance against Ferencvaros? And how about his treatment of Taiwo after his Brentford goal? Zero minutes.

The guy is a prime dickhead with no man management ability.

Those of you defending him seem to live in a different era.
None of that has anything to do with whether he had influence on transfers or not
 

Berkshire Red

John Robertson
None of that has anything to do with whether he had influence on transfers or not
Just because Cooper "didn't", and he clearly did as we signed players he'd worked with before (MGW, CHO and Panzo) as well as Cook against Dane Murphy's wishes. Does not mean that Dyche didn't.

That a manager clearly won't use a player will have an impact on the subsequent decisions. We had no, or little, wriggle room, so needed one out before one came in. It's not like Dyche was using him anyway, so no loss. And they obviously expected Pizza Crouch to sign earlier than he did.
 

Erik

oopsy daisy!
LTLF Minion
The **** didn't use the players at his disposal.

Do you think Edu told him not to play McAtee again after his best performance against Ferencvaros? And how about his treatment of Taiwo after his Brentford goal? Zero minutes.

The guy is a prime dickhead with no man management ability.

Those of you defending him seem to live in a different era.
Not defending him and not disagreeing with your points, although your hatred of the man isn't a feeling I share.

Just not sure that makes him responsible all on his own for Kalimuendo being let go, especially when Postecoglu didn't give him a go either.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Kalimuendo wanted out even before Dyche arrived and that only reinforced it.
 

McKenzie

Geoff Thomas
Just because Cooper "didn't", and he clearly did as we signed players he'd worked with before (MGW, CHO and Panzo) as well as Cook against Dane Murphy's wishes. Does not mean that Dyche didn't.

That a manager clearly won't use a player will have an impact on the subsequent decisions. We had no, or little, wriggle room, so needed one out before one came in. It's not like Dyche was using him anyway, so no loss. And they obviously expected Pizza Crouch to sign earlier than he did.
Literally all of that post is your opinion and not fact 😅

I'm not saying what Jack Colback says is 100% fact but I suspect he might be privy to more information than you.

Unless you were part of the 22-23 squad as well in which case I apologise.
 

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
Do we know it was Dyche's recommendation?
And you know it was Dyche's recommendation because....?
Daft question fellas. Of course I don't know if Kalimuendo leaving was down to Dyche. For once, I'm just indulging in the same type of perceived wisdom as many others on here do. However, I won't budge in my belief that the lad would've scored goals under Pereira.
 

Erik

oopsy daisy!
LTLF Minion
Daft question fellas. Of course I don't know if Kalimuendo leaving was down to Dyche. For once, I'm just indulging in the same type of perceived wisdom as many others on here do. However, I won't budge in my belief that the lad would've scored goals under Pereira.
As you are fond of observing, stating your belief doesn't actually make it a fact. Why lower yourself to that level given you are so scathing of it.
We have no idea how he would have fared under Pereira do we?
 

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
As you are fond of observing, stating your belief doesn't actually make it a fact. Why lower yourself to that level given you are so scathing of it.
We have no idea how he would have fared under Pereira do we?
Of course we don't Erik, but I've seen enough of Dyche's anti-football and enough of Pereira's attempts at trying to at least get us playing with more inventiveness to reach the opinion I have.
 

Listen 'ere young man

Stuart Pearce
I read somewhere that Frankfurt are only likely to buy him if they qualify for Europe, currently 7 points of a qualification place.

That might be good news for us as he is likely to be very handy in the championship should we suffer that fate.

We are unlikely to attract someone who could storm the league due to financial restrictions.
 
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Alf-engelos Mindminackers

The Artiste formally known as "w**ksy"
I read somewhere that Frankfurt are only likely to buy him if they qualify for Europe, currently 7 points of a qualification place.

That might be good news for us as he is likely to be very handy on the championship should we suffer that fate.

We are unlikely to attract someone who could storm the league due to financial restrictions.

Can't see it myself. Edu bought in someone who came here to play Prem and European football, and who got mardy early after only featuring in games like those against Swansea.

I can't then see him to want to go on to playing the likes of Swansea ever week.
 

Otis Redding

Try A Little Tenderness
I read somewhere that Frankfurt are only likely to buy him if they qualify for Europe, currently 7 points of a qualification place.

That might be good news for us as he is likely to be very handy on the championship should we suffer that fate.

We are unlikely to attract someone who could storm the league due to financial restrictions.
I still think he potentially has a future with us in the PL next season under a less-agricultural manager than Dyche.
 

Erik

oopsy daisy!
LTLF Minion
Of course we don't Erik, but I've seen enough of Dyche's anti-football and enough of Pereira's attempts at trying to at least get us playing with more inventiveness to reach the opinion I have.
And, for what it is worth, I agree with you.

I think there is a player there but no one at Forest has given him a chance.

I wonder if Postecoglu not playing him led to disillusionment which affected everything? Dyche only compounded it?
 

TDC

First Team Squad
Doesn't matter who's decision it was, as a club / collective it is mind blowingly stupid. And ultimately Edu would have final sign-off on it, yet another reason to give him his walking papers.
 

valspoodle

Ian Bowyer
Once more it proves that judgement in football is an art and not a science. How many world-beaters now work in a factory etc? How many failures grace the Top6?
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
Everytime I see a new post in this thread my first thought is "Bugger - he's scored another goal".
Some of the revisionism on here is alarming though.

Nuno signed him, and didn't pick him. Ange, who was renowned for his attacking, didn't pick him either. He isn't really a Dyche player but he didn't pick him either.

When he did get chances, he was ineffective at best, except for one match in the EL.

Now of course when we loaned him out he's now the second coming of Jermain Defoe but this doesn't account for him playing in a much easier league. We have a striker who came from the Bundesliga, and he's erratic at best (well, his fitness doesn't help). We loaned Gio Reyna from that division too, and he was also ineffective. The other players we got from there aren't really worth much mention either...

No way he's a PL striker. He may be a good finisher but PL defenders won't often allow him that opportunity, and he's not fast or strong enough to offer anything else.
 

Listen 'ere young man

Stuart Pearce
For the umpteenth time, Nuno and Ange had Wood to call upon so it is understandable that Kalimuendo didn't get enough minutes under them.
Dyche obviously didn't fancy him so he was allowed to leave. Someone at the club must have had an incling that there might be another manager change in the offing before swapping him for a big lump for Dycheball.
 
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