Eddie Yates
Ian Bowyer
He's an absolute f***ing idiot
Worst manager I've ever seen at this level
Worst manager I've ever seen at this level
Angelos „Ange“ Postecoglou
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Chappers85
Can't Play Left-Back
It was a stupid appointment. Regardless of his managerial (in)ability, he was just so bitter after Spurs and it showed. Never shut up about them or himself. He's probably not a bad bloke, and in certain circumstances (i.e. having a preseason and better players than everyone else), a good manager. But totally wrong for us. Completely ignorant in marrying the basics with attacking flair.
Dyche is only basics, which can work to an extent, before it starts having a detrimental effect on the players. Both have their niches, and that's okay, but also basically incompetent in certain, vital aspects to the game. Forest weren't suited to either.
Stupid analogy coming up...
In teaching terms I'd liken Forest players to a bright A-Level group - talented with lots of potential but not capable of producing mature, academic writing consistently. Nuno got them progressing nicely but not perfect by any means, but they were shaping up pretty well for their exams. Then a new head of department was brought in and he decided he wasn't answering to this idiot, so publicly started slagging off the Head and the school's vision so he could leave for a job down South.
Postecoglou is like an MA graduate working on his PHD, but doesn't know how to teach, hasn’t looked at the syllabus but has big lofty complex ideas that are neither relevant or communicated effectively. He also doesn't believe in essay structures or marking. When the kids started failing because they haven't got the faintest idea what to do, it's not his fault because he was teaching holistically and that worked with an really bright, undergrad group he had at a very good and rich university.
Dyche on the other hand is an expert GCSE resit teacher, he's great at getting those borderline students over the line with basics, drilling them with functional and rigid paragraph structures that hit the mark scheme in the most overt way possible. He keeps saying how he wants to teach A-Level but his methods are too restrictive and basic for those students. The parents and governors like him because he's so salt of earth, talks in language they can understand and like him as a no nonsense teacher that they think what teaching should be. Then when the kids start struggling, he publicly slags the students off, calling them all thick and never looking inward at what else he could do. Pedagogy - like tactics - are no match for constant assessments (running) and behaviour management (shouting).
Hopefully, Victor is a bit more like Nuno.
Steve Cooper BTW, is the guy that got them all through their GCSEs with flying colours, they all loved him, but he had never taught at A-Level before and that first term was a bit ropey, so the school decided not to trust him.
Dyche is only basics, which can work to an extent, before it starts having a detrimental effect on the players. Both have their niches, and that's okay, but also basically incompetent in certain, vital aspects to the game. Forest weren't suited to either.
Stupid analogy coming up...
In teaching terms I'd liken Forest players to a bright A-Level group - talented with lots of potential but not capable of producing mature, academic writing consistently. Nuno got them progressing nicely but not perfect by any means, but they were shaping up pretty well for their exams. Then a new head of department was brought in and he decided he wasn't answering to this idiot, so publicly started slagging off the Head and the school's vision so he could leave for a job down South.
Postecoglou is like an MA graduate working on his PHD, but doesn't know how to teach, hasn’t looked at the syllabus but has big lofty complex ideas that are neither relevant or communicated effectively. He also doesn't believe in essay structures or marking. When the kids started failing because they haven't got the faintest idea what to do, it's not his fault because he was teaching holistically and that worked with an really bright, undergrad group he had at a very good and rich university.
Dyche on the other hand is an expert GCSE resit teacher, he's great at getting those borderline students over the line with basics, drilling them with functional and rigid paragraph structures that hit the mark scheme in the most overt way possible. He keeps saying how he wants to teach A-Level but his methods are too restrictive and basic for those students. The parents and governors like him because he's so salt of earth, talks in language they can understand and like him as a no nonsense teacher that they think what teaching should be. Then when the kids start struggling, he publicly slags the students off, calling them all thick and never looking inward at what else he could do. Pedagogy - like tactics - are no match for constant assessments (running) and behaviour management (shouting).
Hopefully, Victor is a bit more like Nuno.
Steve Cooper BTW, is the guy that got them all through their GCSEs with flying colours, they all loved him, but he had never taught at A-Level before and that first term was a bit ropey, so the school decided not to trust him.
shovelheadred
Youth Team
This just in, if anyone even cares.....
https://www.codesports.com.au/footb...t/news-story/09a8db3bbc8356d2d79bc32c50fcebd7
https://www.codesports.com.au/footb...t/news-story/09a8db3bbc8356d2d79bc32c50fcebd7
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
TLDR:
It's all about Ange, and how he's a better manager (or person? hard to tell) from our "experience".
No sort of analysis how or where it went wrong, no sense of regret or even any sorries for the mess he oversaw.
Not worth the 3 minute read.
Red Echo
First Team Squad
Just seen this. Four uses of "I" in the first paragraph alone, which is impressive work even by his standards.
The thing that Flange doesn't seem to realise is that if you're going to adopt a disgruntled, me vs the world persona, you need the charisma to balance it out. See Mourinho, or even Billy, who had that sparkle in his eye that countered everything else.