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Alexandre Nascimento da Costa e Silva

HBB

Jack Burkitt
I hope it was a free - I think it was described at the time as "an undisclosed fee"... hopefully we paid in buttons.... chocolate ones
 

It's Baggio

John Robertson
Was reported at £200k from the West Ham end.
 

BryanRoy

Stuart Pearce
Suspect he like Drager might have been stop-gap signings. Cheap and will be relatively easy to off-load.

But that is just assuming. Don't want to knock the players before they get to play.
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
Suspect he like Drager might have been stop-gap signings. Cheap and will be relatively easy to off-load.

But that is just assuming. Don't want to knock the players before they get to play.

Thought that from the start and expect him to end up in Greece somewhere with Forest taking a small loss on the transfer.
 

congo_red_49

Ale Ape
He'd probably have more of a chance if our attacking players weren't all playing pretty well for Cooper.

Who would you leave out of the matchday squad to give him a chance? Mighten, Zinc, Johnson, Lolley, Grabban, Taylor? Even Carvalho can't break the squad whilst everyone is fit and available.
 

BryanRoy

Stuart Pearce
He'd probably have more of a chance if our attacking players weren't all playing pretty well for Cooper.

Who would you leave out of the matchday squad to give him a chance? Mighten, Zinc, Johnson, Lolley, Grabban, Taylor? Even Carvalho can't break the squad whilst everyone is fit and available.

I suppose in an ideal world Murphy/Cooper would love to trade Cafu, Carvalho, Silva for another forward option they feel can influence the squad.

But like Murphy said, with getting unwanted players out (ie Jenk/Bong) and fine-tuning the squad it may take 3 transfer windows.
 

cheapseats

Grenville Morris
He'd probably have more of a chance if our attacking players weren't all playing pretty well for Cooper.

Who would you leave out of the matchday squad to give him a chance? Mighten, Zinc, Johnson, Lolley, Grabban, Taylor? Even Carvalho can't break the squad whilst everyone is fit and available.

Even Carvalho?!. He hasn't "broken" any match day squads in years. More chance of him breaking wind....
 

cheapseats

Grenville Morris
I suppose in an ideal world Murphy/Cooper would love to trade Cafu, Carvalho, Silva for another forward option they feel can influence the squad.

But like Murphy said, with getting unwanted players out (ie Jenk/Bong) and fine-tuning the squad it may take 3 transfer windows.

And without stating the bleeding obvious a big part of Murphys job as well as getting rid of deadwood is to stop the culture that gets them here in the first place.
Alf is right on this one and the club has to resist the inevitable pressure to "make signings" to supposedly get us over the mythical line when about 1 in 10 of the ones we make (or more accurately are offered), based on objective analysis of the last 10 years chaos have a realistic chance of making the grade. I think we have to trust the academy more and for example if Djed does go, to my mind its time to give Back a decent run, even if he does make some mistakes. I'd say the same for Fornah as well-why not him rather than Garner, sure hes not as good when Garner is on top form, but currently hes not and at least the other lad is ours...
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
Even Carvalho?!. He hasn't "broken" any match day squads in years. More chance of him breaking wind....

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GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
He'd probably have more of a chance if our attacking players weren't all playing pretty well for Cooper.

Who would you leave out of the matchday squad to give him a chance? Mighten, Zinc, Johnson, Lolley, Grabban, Taylor? Even Carvalho can't break the squad whilst everyone is fit and available.

I suppose Mighten is the obvious choice, but then again Mighten is a long-term project who deserves playing time even when he's not that great.
 

GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
Strange report in the Greek press that Aris would like him back. Strange not because he was poor for them (on the contrary, he was one of their best players last year), but because they already have four wingers. If there's any truth in the story, the reason is probably that their top signing in the wings, Argentinian / Paraguyan Juan Iturbe, has failed miserably to make an impression.

The report mentions that the added difficulty is that he's under contract, so I guess they could take him on loan if you don't want him.
 

Master Yates

John Robertson
Strange report in the Greek press that Aris would like him back. Strange not because he was poor for them (on the contrary, he was one of their best players last year), but because they already have four wingers. If there's any truth in the story, the reason is probably that their top signing in the wings, Argentinian / Paraguyan Juan Iturbe, has failed miserably to make an impression.

The report mentions that the added difficulty is that he's under contract, so I guess they could take him on loan if you don't want him.

Juan Iturbe’s star has fallen if he’s disappointing at Aris.

One in a long, long line of “next Messi”s


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GreeksBearingGifts

Stuart Pearce
Juan Iturbe’s star has fallen if he’s disappointing at Aris.

One in a long, long line of “next Messi”s

He looks unfit, untrained and unbothered by his downfall. Aris has not been very lucky with big names. The two biggest contracts are Iturbe and Aboubakar Kamara, and both have spectacularly underperformed. Stoke City's midfielder Badou N'Diaye, on the other hand, has been excellent for them, a real force in midfield.
 

Red bandit

Geoff Thomas
Juan Iturbe’s star has fallen if he’s disappointing at Aris.

One in a long, long line of “next Messi”s


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I remember that, along time ago, we signed a young Scottish lad dubbed “ the new Kenny Dalgleish”.

I saw him once in the stands at a reserve game and I never saw him again.
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
He looks unfit, untrained and unbothered by his downfall. Aris has not been very lucky with big names. The two biggest contracts are Iturbe and Aboubakar Kamara, and both have spectacularly underperformed. Stoke City's midfielder Badou N'Diaye, on the other hand, has been excellent for them, a real force in midfield.

They must have some decent money behind them. They often attract big(ish) names.

I always liked Aboubakar Kamara, I thought he had the Antonio's about him, but seemed a bit brain dead.
 

Red bandit

Geoff Thomas
Thanks for the name gents. I couldn’t remember it.
I think that the moral of the story is, if you see a player called “the next ......” take that to mean the next abject failure.
 

cheapseats

Grenville Morris
The point being, you'll find more Forest fans that 'rate' him than Silva.

Yes because theres a cult amongst our fans based on about 3 good games (or more accurately about 20 decent passes) in 3 years.

I think it says it all that he hasn't made it on to the pitch under Cooper and given that we all seem to be able to agree that we trust in SC to deliver the goods hopefully that settles the argument that Carvalho is an unrecognised genius waiting for someone to unlock and unleash him on the Championship.
 

congo_red_49

Ale Ape
Yes because theres a cult amongst our fans based on about 3 good games (or more accurately about 20 decent passes) in 3 years.

I think it says it all that he hasn't made it on to the pitch under Cooper and given that we all seem to be able to agree that we trust in SC to deliver the goods hopefully that settles the argument that Carvalho is an unrecognised genius waiting for someone to unlock and unleash him on the Championship.

Still missing the subtleties, but carry on mate.
 
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