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I'll happily say WHL wasn't good. Or more specifically, I'll say that in my experience it had by far the worst/least atmosphere of any "traditional" ground following the various 90s redevelopments. Which is amusing given that's an accusation that Spurs fans always tried to chuck at Highbury...

From what I remember, the Clifton Pastures proposal had more in the way of publicly announced plans. Unfortunately, with the scheme having died over 15 years ago, and a whole new development now underway on the same site, Google isn't coming up with much aside from this BBC article about local...

Hold on a second, I didn't say (or even come close to implying) that's what I want for Forest. I simply made the points that a new stadium doesn't have to be miles out of town (and I did mention that while Derby is fairly close to the City Centre it's also in a nothing area which makes it feel...

Yep, there was a lot of posturing going on. I'm still of the belief that if the WC2018 bid had been won, then very quickly minds would have focussed on either Eastside or Eastcroft.

Well, in terms of development - one major change is that there isn't currently a comparable proposed development. The Clifton Pastures site (now rebranded as Fairham) now has the planning permission it needed and is currently being built (full permission for the road layout and industrial...

Both locations were chosen because there was a (supposedly) well financed developer looking to use the stadium as an enabling development - the stadium would have been the "community benefit" part of a much larger development that unlocked the land, so they'd build the stadium for us for free...

Regarding locations of new-build stadiums, it's really not true that most of them are "out of town". It just seems that way because what surrounds them is often retail park type stuff. Sunderland, Southampton, Cardiff, Millwall, Huddersfield, Hull, Brentford, Wimbledon, Leicester and Rotherham...

The County Council are responsible for safety, but yeah. Different councils.

They've already built on it - albeit with fairly cheap & generic industrial units so stuff that could be relocated. But that applies to most of the Queens Drive / Lenton Lane / Redfield Road area.

Irving Scholar agrees with you. He'd have loved to have flipped it and have us play in a flat pack somewhere along Redfield Road.

I believe that at City - the conversion for football (which was a huge amount of extra work on top of the CG stadium) was paid for by the council. Then fitting out of bars/concessions/hospitality was paid for by the club. Any subsequent expansions/refurbs/maintenance since it was handed over...

Clubs like Man City and West Ham aren't accurate comparisons, as they lease the Stadium whereas we lease the Land. If the City Council were to build 4 new stands, taking the ground up to 50k+ as at those grounds, then I'd see no problem with raising the rent to the ~5m that Man City and West...

tbh even if we ever reached the end of the lease without a new one being signed - it'd take an exceptionally brave and/or stupid political party to evict the club. Be that the city council themselves, or via accountants answerable to central government.

The idea that there's loads of room behind it is somewhat inaccurate as well. There's loads of room behind two thirds of it. There's f*** all room behind the other third. So any expanded stand would either have to start knocking down more boathouses, or would end up as lopsided as the Bridgford...

To get around issues with the City Council owning the land, we should move to some land owned by the City Council?

Falmer, if you cheat a tiny bit and compare it to Withdean.

Yeah, that's the point. The suggestion is that the County Council are prioritising resources in boroughs they look upon favourably rather than spreading funds around evenly or where it's most needed.

The 2011 lease was for 50 years, so expires in 2061. As it stands, we've got 37 years left. The club did announce in 2019 that they'd agreed a replacement 250 year lease - but as has been covered on this thread, it's been claimed over the last week or so that it never actually went into effect...

In 2061? Speak for yourself, I fully intend to still be alive by then. And if we're lucky the club will have started construction on the replacement boat house.

If, hypothetically, the First Team did move elsewhere then I'd imagine the club would still get plenty use out of the site, for Academy sides, and possibly even could give the Womens team their own home ground. They're currently building new facilities for the Academy on the site, so I'd...